fl1 traction control problem

Grayo · Mar 13, 2013

barelyhuman said:
Sorry mate, didn't mean or intend any offence, just hate when people are rude on forums...banter is to be expected though

No offence taken lol. I don't like it when people are rude either, I think it can put a lot of people off from ever posting again.

Freelaner · Mar 13, 2013

barelyhuman said:
Happy days! Will have a look tomorrow and keep you posted. Thanks again for your help and advice

Goodo

roccotune · Mar 13, 2013

I believe that pre 2002 drive shafts had rings and post no rings as it was built into shaft.

Do you have any lights on the dash?

dave21478 · Mar 13, 2013

If you dont have these rings, then the ABS will not work, and you will have an ABS warning on the dash too.

As standard, the ABS light comes on when you start up and remains on until you roll more than 10mph (I think its 10?) which will put it out.

If you dont have these rings, you may find the abs warning light has been bodged to hide the fault.

Dr_evil · Mar 13, 2013

Grayo said:
See Freelaner, it's all about appreciation when you help somebody out. Makes you feel good dosen't it. Well done mate.

No. Help should go to those who go about it in the right manner, as said manners are free.

You wouldn't help someone on the street who used the same manner as some of the noobs so why should it differ online ?

Freelaner said:
don't need a lesson in that tvm

this guy introduced himself first and regards the forum ettiquette

Exactly unlike that cnut with 17" wheels...

barelyhuman said:
Forum etiquette is something of a dying trend.....besides manners are free!

Freelaner said:
at least you got past your first post and are still here, a lot post once then get their question answered and bugger off

He did alright on his intro

Grayo said:
:clap2::clap2::clap2: Honestly it dosen't bother me I just like to help out when I can :focus:

Theres a difference between helping those that deserve it though and those that sign up and go "hi I'm new here and need help on x,y and z because I'm new and you should all help me because I'm new and demand it as its my right to get free advice because I'm new"

Freelaner · Mar 13, 2013

roccotune said:
I believe that pre 2002 drive shafts had rings and post no rings as it was built into shaft.

Do you have any lights on the dash?

true

i forgot about that

they are magnetic pick ups.

Hippo · Mar 13, 2013

Pic of my 2001

Davidspect · Mar 13, 2013

As standard, the ABS light comes on when you start up and remains on until you roll more than 10mph (I think its 10?) which will put it out.

Think that's only on early models, 2003 should go out after start up.

barelyhuman · Mar 14, 2013

Thanks everyone for your replies.... At present the only light that illuminates at start up is the green hdc light...no abs, no tc.....bit worrying really!

teddywood1 · Mar 14, 2013

i bet who ever put the new drive shafts on either disconected the sensors or they have had it or as been said they do not have the rings on ,when you put a new driveshaft end on you are supposed to change the sensors, as the old ones will be rusted in and have not got the right distance ,or if you can get the sensor out just shove it down onto the ring, and as soon as you move the car it will find its own distance.hope this helps

barelyhuman · Mar 14, 2013

Well have had a quick poke about underneath and can see that I have ring on the drivers side, not on the passenger side though

also after removing the cowl and getting into the clocks, find that it looks as if someone has tried to dig out a couple of the warning bulbs....I'm guessing one must be tc light

dave21478 · Mar 14, 2013

Does the ABS light come on when you put the ignition as I mentioned earlier?

If you have no TC, especially due to a missing pickup ring on the driveshaft, its pretty much guaranteed that you don't have working ABS either.

The bulbs in the dash for the warning lamps are actually tiny surface mount LED's. The caveman that owned my car before me chiseled a load off the clocks to put out the warning lamps for ABS and TC....it was too much faff to try to replace them so I got second hand clocks instead.

With working warning lamps, you will have a clearer idea of what is what or not, but ultimately it will need plugged into a diagnostic machine to verify the fault. Granted the missing pickup ring is a very likely suspect, but there may be plenty of other faults in the system too.....faulty sensors etc. Mine was a dead ABS pump, that meant ABS, TC and HDC all wouldn't work.

Freelaner · Mar 14, 2013

barelyhuman said:
Well have had a quick poke about underneath and can see that I have ring on the drivers side, not on the passenger side though also after removing the cowl and getting into the clocks, find that it looks as if someone has tried to dig out a couple of the warning bulbs....I'm guessing one must be tc light

Bugger

at least you are on the way to a conclusion.

barelyhuman · Mar 14, 2013

dave21478 said:
Does the ABS light come on when you put the ignition as I mentioned earlier?

If you have no TC, especially due to a missing pickup ring on the driveshaft, its pretty much guaranteed that you don't have working ABS either.

The bulbs in the dash for the warning lamps are actually tiny surface mount LED's. The caveman that owned my car before me chiseled a load off the clocks to put out the warning lamps for ABS and TC....it was too much faff to try to replace them so I got second hand clocks instead.

With working warning lamps, you will have a clearer idea of what is what or not, but ultimately it will need plugged into a diagnostic machine to verify the fault. Granted the missing pickup ring is a very likely suspect, but there may be plenty of other faults in the system too.....faulty sensors etc. Mine was a dead ABS pump, that meant ABS, TC and HDC all wouldn't work.

Thanks mate, been having a better look this evening...looks as if the bulbs that have been hacked at are ABS and TC lights, HDC light does work, and the HDC system itself does seem to work, can feel the brakes pulsing when in 1st gear when you back off the throttle....although it is very sporadic and only works when the car is first started up!

mickymck · Mar 14, 2013

roccotune said:
I believe that pre 2002 drive shafts had rings and post no rings as it was built into shaft.

Do you have any lights on the dash?

my 2004 facelift has the abs rings built into the wheelbearing, dont know if 2003 has.

kev1nlm · Dec 22, 2013

sorry to hijack this thread but I cant seem to find a thread with my problem, my traction control acts as if it is working so light comes on when wheels are slipping and pump makes a noise but earlier today I grounded my car with a cross axle, so osf and nsr were up in the air the light was flashing and the pump whirring but the wheels were happily spinning! Any thoughts?

Freelaner · Dec 22, 2013

kev1nlm said:
sorry to hijack this thread but I cant seem to find a thread with my problem, my traction control acts as if it is working so light comes on when wheels are slipping and pump makes a noise but earlier today I grounded my car with a cross axle, so osf and nsr were up in the air the light was flashing and the pump whirring but the wheels were happily spinning! Any thoughts?

abs pump fault?

duff sensor?

kev1nlm · Dec 22, 2013

mmm that was my initial thoughts but what is throwing me is that HDC and ABS work perfectly! :/

Freelaner · Dec 22, 2013

mechanical rather than electrical :scratching_chin:

edit: or is it that they just appear to working?

try all connections and the sensor rings could be choked with mud

kev1nlm · Dec 22, 2013

The brakes work fine! mmmm its a puzzler! lol

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