Extra lights

"Steve Firth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> tracy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Our garage has sold 6 in as many weeks, and still have people wanting to
buy
> > them...why???
>
> Because they are cheap, not because they are good.
>

the Vauxhall Frontera 2 and 4 doors are the Isuzu Mu and Wizard here in NZ,
and the Holden Frontera and Jackaroo in Australia, and sell quite well.

rhys

rnf2 <[email protected]> wrote:

> the Vauxhall Frontera 2 and 4 doors are the Isuzu Mu and Wizard here in NZ,
> and the Holden Frontera and Jackaroo in Australia, and sell quite well.

Here they were a complete and utter lemon with inferior quality control
from GM leading to loads of problems. Many of the early ones still leak
like a sieve.

Almost any other vehicle is better.

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"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
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> rnf2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > the Vauxhall Frontera 2 and 4 doors are the Isuzu Mu and Wizard here in
NZ,
> > and the Holden Frontera and Jackaroo in Australia, and sell quite well.
>
> Here they were a complete and utter lemon with inferior quality control
> from GM leading to loads of problems. Many of the early ones still leak
> like a sieve.
>
> Almost any other vehicle is better.

Big difference here. Isuzu has a good rep for quality and solid products.
and Holden just as good. Ours come direct from Japan, and Holden build
theirs in Australia, where are the UK ones built? in the northern UK GM
plants?

rhys

rnf2 <[email protected]> wrote:

> where are the UK ones built?

At the Vauxhall factory in Bedford (or was it Luton)? I think.

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"Steve Firth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> rnf2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > where are the UK ones built?
>
> At the Vauxhall factory in Bedford (or was it Luton)? I think.
>
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then the probs are to do with shoddy english workmanship... Is that a jaguar
factory by any chance?


rhys

In article <[email protected]>, Clanger wrote:
> Fronteras were one of Vauxhalls biggest flops
>
>

The Sintra was the biggest flop wasn't it? I think I've only ever seen two.


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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 01:11:53 +0000, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

->Here they were a complete and utter lemon with inferior quality control
->from GM leading to loads of problems. Many of the early ones still leak
->like a sieve.
->
->Almost any other vehicle is better.

I know from your postings in other groups you like to stir things up, I would
however suggest that if you wish to do that when the subject is based on fact
rather then some emotive drivel, you should at least do your homework before
spouting off.



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"tracy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Fronteras were one of Vauxhalls biggest flops"
>
> Funny quote!!
> Our garage has sold 6 in as many weeks, and still have people wanting to
buy
> them...why???
> Because they offer 4x4 ar a far better price than a Landrover/Mitsubishi
> etc...we know we have tested them all...and our Fronty has more pulling
> power than most 4x4 with a 2.5 turbo diesel engine in it !!!
> Read it and weep CAR driver !!!
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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> "Clanger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Fronteras were one of Vauxhalls biggest flops
> >
> >
> > "tracy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "Clanger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > ohhhhhhh I just realised you gotta Frontera so you must have a sense
of
> > > humour
> > > perhaps thats why they should be banned with comments like that !!
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes we have a sense of humour, yes we have a Frontera, and yes when
the
> > > weather gets real bad our 4x4 will keep going, especially when other
> > > "muppets" can't move. And it gives us more protection against those
who
> > > think they can drive their little family runarounds...!!!
> > >
> > > Before a ban on more powerful lights, maybe the Police should start
> fining
> > > people for driving illegally. ie using fog lights when its not
foggy!!!!
> > > especially in the rain !!!
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Eddie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I've just taken possession of a Vitara which has been fitted with a
> nudge bar, with some extra lights of some sort fitted to the nudge bar.
>
> For some reason, I'm under the impression that to pass an MOT, any extra
> (forward-facing) lights fitted to a vehicle must be operable, and must
> only be operable when high-beam is selected - is that correct?
>
> If it is, then I'm not sure that the MOT it came with is actually valid...
>
> You see, these lights aren't operable at all. There's no electrical
> connection between these lights and the rest of the vehicle - it seems
> as though whatever wires were connected to the lights have been snipped
> off, close to the shell.
>
> So... seeing as they're there, I might as well get them working, else I
> think I'll have to take them off and be left with two empty brackets on
> the nudge bar.
>
> I want to have a switch on the dash, which I guess will need to be
> connected to the main beam switch, and then go to a relay which will
> control the lights.
>
> I assume someone round here's done this sort of thing before - care to
> offer any tips?
>
> --
> Eddie mailto:[email protected]
>

My new Grand Vitara has Suzuki accessory fit, driving lamps, mounted in the
bumper some 250mm below the main head lights and they are not wired to the
main beam dip switch. They have an independent switch for on or off.

How do these fit into this discussion.....are they legal as they do not
switch with the main lights and they are lower than the head lights.

clanger