L322 exhaust change

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oldduffer

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Hi guys and gals
what is the problems of de catting that can arise or is it a no no feel free to take the micheal
I am used to it at my time of life ,but thank's in anticipation !!!
 
thank you for your reply but am I right in saying cats are fitted to cut down emission gases
because mine runs lpg and the emissions are next to nothing when I took it for M O T last year
the service manager came to me and said nearly ready but the mechanic was having trouble with
emission test I told him the car came in running on gas therefore he had to test on gas he went back
2 minutes later and gave me my M O T emissions passed just thought I would tell you this as this may
alter replies many thanks
 
You must not remove a cat that was fitted as standard, the car cannot be used on the road and would fail the MOT.
 
oldduffer said:
thank you for your reply but am I right in saying cats are fitted to cut down emission gases
because mine runs lpg and the emissions are next to nothing when I took it for M O T last year
the service manager came to me and said nearly ready but the mechanic was having trouble with
emission test I told him the car came in running on gas therefore he had to test on gas he went back
2 minutes later and gave me my M O T emissions passed just thought I would tell you this as this may
alter replies many thanks
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Still not allowed. If the cat was fitted as standard it must not be removed.
 
Have a look at this.
https://www.forums.motester.co.uk/forum3/4007-1.html
Even Mot testers, it seems cannot agree.
But I would imagine that if your car can ONLY run on LPG as there is no petrol tank etc then there is no doubt you will not need an CAT. But if the vehicle can run on both then it'll have to have cats, for when it runs on petrol.
I believe MOT testers will ask you what you want it to be tested on, and my converted vehicle has, according to what I have seen on the Gov.uk MOT test part of the site, been tested on one, some times, then the other at other times.
If you always take your vehicles to the same place, like i do, and they are reasonable, then I'd ask them what they would do and would be looking for, as it seems to vary from MOT test station to test station.
At the end of the day, it seems as confusing to them as it is to us!
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Have a look at this.
https://www.forums.motester.co.uk/forum3/4007-1.html
Even Mot testers, it seems cannot agree.
But I would imagine that if your car can ONLY run on LPG as there is no petrol tank etc then there is no doubt you will not need an CAT. But if the vehicle can run on both then it'll have to have cats, for when it runs on petrol.
I believe MOT testers will ask you what you want it to be tested on, and my converted vehicle has, according to what I have seen on the Gov.uk MOT test part of the site, been tested on one, some times, then the other at other times.
If you always take your vehicles to the same place, like i do, and they are reasonable, then I'd ask them what they would do and would be looking for, as it seems to vary from MOT test station to test station.
At the end of the day, it seems as confusing to them as it is to us!
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The EU law is that if it was fitted when it left the factory, it must not be removed. It is or should be an MOT failure.
 
Datatek said:
The EU law is that if it was fitted when it left the factory, it must not be removed. It is or should be an MOT failure.
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Well, as Beverley is a few miles north of Hull, and we'll be out of the EU next January, does anyone really care?
Would only matter, possibly, if he drives it over there and in all the decades I've been driving in France no one ever said anything about an MOT.
A French "controle technique" might be a different matter. I don't even carry paper to prove it has an MOT. Means nothing to a French plod.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Well, as Beverley is a few miles north of Hull, and we'll be out of the EU next January, does anyone really care?
Would only matter, possibly, if he drives it over there and in all the decades I've been driving in France no one ever said anything about an MOT.
A French "controle technique" might be a different matter. I don't even carry paper to prove it has an MOT. Means nothing to a French plod.
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The test parameters are laid down by the EU and the UK was still in the EU when they came into force, Travelling in France with your UK car, you are required to carry your log book, MOT certificate and proof of insurance. Get stopped without papers and they can impound your car.
 
Datatek said:
The test parameters are laid down by the EU and the UK was still in the EU when they came into force, Travelling in France with your UK car, you are required to carry your log book, MOT certificate and proof of insurance. Get stopped without papers and they can impound your car.
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You are the first person I have read that has said that you have to have proof of the MOT with you. The rest yes I already knew that, could you show a link or something, as I really am surprised about this.
Someone ought to tell the AA as well as it is not in their abvice for people driving abroad.
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/driving-abroad/general-advice
However it is maybe worth mentioning that if your car is taxed that is proof it had an MOT at that point.
From now one we will copy off our MOTs and take em with us, although we could print it off the Gov.uk website.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
You are the first person I have read that has said that you have to have proof of the MOT with you. The rest yes I already knew that, could you show a link or something, as I really am surprised about this.
Someone ought to tell the AA as well as it is not in their abvice for people driving abroad.
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/driving-abroad/general-advice
However it is maybe worth mentioning that if your car is taxed that is proof it had an MOT at that point.
From now one we will copy off our MOTs and take em with us, although we could print it off the Gov.uk website.
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The UK no longer issue a tax disc so there is no longer visible proof. Here the insurance and MOT are displayed on the windscreen.
I was also advised that it's a good idea to have the vehicle purchase receipt with you and if it's a company car a letter giving permission for it's use.
 
Thank you all for your input like my name shows getting to old for this game but I enjoy it,
but I should have waited a couple of hours till my next door neighbour came home he works for vosa
and you what they can be like we often spend time in my garage servicing his car and and nattering
he just like's to use my 2 post lift I think he is going to try and take it when I pass on ( some hope son
as already been there !!)but thank you all again
 
Datatek said:
The UK no longer issue a tax disc so there is no longer visible proof. Here the insurance and MOT are displayed on the windscreen.
I was also advised that it's a good idea to have the vehicle purchase receipt with you and if it's a company car a letter giving permission for it's use.
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Forgot you live live in France! We spend 6 months in the Tarn which why i am very interested in what you say. I don't think we either of us carry around proof of purchase. As far as I am concerned the V5c proves that, as does the Carte Grise you carry around.
Anyway, thanks for all your input. Hows things in the Vienne Covid19 wise?:)
 
Datatek said:
The UK no longer issue a tax disc so there is no longer visible proof. Here the insurance and MOT are displayed on the windscreen.
I was also advised that it's a good idea to have the vehicle purchase receipt with you and if it's a company car a letter giving permission for it's use.
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Same here.
There is also a copy of permission for me to drive. Incase they question the car is registered to Ms name. Even though my ID shows same address. Was primary needed when I drove it across a border.

we also have no more sticker for Vignette (tax)

J
 
marjon said:
Same here.
There is also a copy of permission for me to drive. Incase they question the car is registered to Ms name. Even though my ID shows same address. Was primary needed when I drove it across a border.

we also have no more sticker for Vignette (tax)

J
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Paperwork, despite the fact we moan about it, is always less in the UK than in other countries. I remember the days when the French still had to pay roadtax which was called vignette then. A hexagonal sticker in the screen. I was living in France 1978/9, bought a Renault 6! But there was no such thing as a controle technique. Insured with the MAIF which was surprisingly cheap but changing the carte grise cost an eye watering 500 francs odd! 1/4 th cost of the car! Didn't expect that. The old banger was amazingly reliable through one of the coldest winters Lille had ever known.:)
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Forgot you live live in France! We spend 6 months in the Tarn which why i am very interested in what you say. I don't think we either of us carry around proof of purchase. As far as I am concerned the V5c proves that, as does the Carte Grise you carry around.
Anyway, thanks for all your input. Hows things in the Vienne Covid19 wise?:)
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It was a French motorcycle Gendarme who advised me about the MOT, we were having coffee out side a roadside café back in my motorcycling days and he arrived and started a conversation. Very helpful guy, told us we could go as fast as we liked out in the sticks and would get no bother, but 1km over the limit in town and they would jump on us

All quiet on the Covid front, we are in a very low infection area.
 
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Datatek said:
It was a French motorcycle Gendarme who advised me about the MOT, we were having coffee out side a roadside café back in my motorcycling days and he arrived and started a conversation. Very helpful guy, told us we could go as fast as we liked out in the sticks and would get no bother, but 1km over the limit in town and they would jump on us
front
All quiet on the Covid front, we are in a very low infection area.
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Very interesting, as I said, after this we'll keep them in the same folder as all the others
Glad to hear the Vienne is like the Charente and the Tarn. We'll be driving down on the 9th, unless something goes wrong!:)
 
Hi every one
As every one on here will know the L 322 V8 petrol as a one piece exhaust system ,can anyone point me in the right
direction as I am thinking of replacing the all system on mine some companies say they do complete systems only to
find they don.t I would rather fit a system that is in parts for ease of assembly .
Been shopping round factors and alike ,do you think its a main dealer job , I have a company about 60 mile away that
say they can make up a system but cant supply front pipes and cats any idea's thanks
 
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