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Bblk68 · Dec 19, 2021

Quick question. I just replaced the PBM on my 2010 3.0 rrs. Works fine but since then my low pressure fuel pump and fuel gauge isn’t working and car runs out of fuel.
Plugged the old one back in and all works fine.
Back to the rebuilt used one and brake works fine but no fuel pump or gauge.
Was told that the PBM needed to have my VIN written to it.
Also, my SDD say lost communication to the PBM
Is that something my SSD can do and how do i do it

bobbobb · Dec 19, 2021

nodge 68

do i need the dealer code activated ?

so i have turned off all wifi disconnected modem but in recommendations its saying run some things to help fix some problems is this still possible ? cause when i tried on wifi it tried to update im trying to solve HCM AND ABS loosing communication with steering angle sensor both have a light on the dash and in the software and the chain symbol at the min says permanent DTC

Nodge68 · Dec 20, 2021

I'm not familiar with using SDD to configure an EPB module, but yes the VIN is stored in there. I used my GAP IID to configure a replacement (new) to my D3, and it was a smooth and easy operation.

I can't believe it's that difficult to configure the EPB module with SDD, it was easy enough to reconfigure my FL2 ECM (second hand) with it.

c4mmyster · Mar 11, 2022

Hi Guys,
Wondering if anyone could help me I installed the latest JRL SSD software with the correct cable but when I try to connect to the car it won't read the Vin Number automatically and when I put the Vin in it comes up with Legacy/current vehicle change (Pictured then it says system error and then does the same process again.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
(Have now solved downloaded a different version and works perfectly now)

Wheeler7534 · Apr 13, 2022

Hi everyone I’m new on here so please bare with me. Iv got a 2014 evoque 2.2 auto currently bricked from an idio* who claimed to know what he was doing.
I bought the car crash damaged, air bags were changed and srs module was crash cleared . But everytime I try to start the car the it just closes itself down on the clocks like it’s locked out. If I don’t try to start it the ignition and light me will come up and stay on fine but as soon as brake is down to start it cuts out again, no cranking or clicking what do ever, car was read with his sdd and ecm was down and not communicating . It wouldn’t allow a reset and reprogram as half way through it would say fail. It could however be read with all details, said it was a communication fault with ecm. He then tried to tell the car it was a virgin module and no joy, then steering lock came on and now won’t go off ( in a red warning triangle . I’m told he’s bricked it. Any advice please? Iv bought the sdd kit from pro auto diagnostics for £899 and another matching ecm. Is it hard to do guys? Any help or advice is much appreciated thanks guys and girlfriend . Thanks Mike

J_D · Apr 13, 2022

Possible when you try and reset and reprogram the ecm it blindly sends the data for so long before any ecm response.
I think you need to establish comms first, checking data lines, powers and earths at the ecm.
Do you get communication with any modules?
I have no experience with the evoque wiring though.

Wheeler7534 · Apr 13, 2022

Thank you for your fast reply! Yes he made coms with it and managed to read the vin and other info but it had lost communication with the other modules the sdd tool said. All of the other modules are okay he said, the TCU was offline too but he said this was normal due to that working through the ECM first and if that’s offline the tcu will be too. Iv bought another ecm to code in once the kit gets here but wanted to know how easy/ hard it is to do if anyone knows? Thanks

Nodge68 · Apr 14, 2022

Wheeler7534 said:
Hi everyone I’m new on here so please bare with me.

This is a vehicle related question, rather than an SDD related information or help.

It's best to ask the question in the forum for the vehicle in question.

However from experience of replacing the ECM in the Freelander 2, it was pretty straightforward with SDD, but this was for a 2009 model, which is different to the 2013 onwards vehicles, which had extensive wiring and module differences.

Wheeler7534 · Apr 14, 2022

I’m afraid I’d have to disagree with you completely, I’m asking for advice, info, help on how to use the sdd program to program a new module in. Iv just given a back ground in what’s wrong because there’s always one guy in a forum that jumps in saying MORE INFO needed. I guess you can’t win in these things without stepping on someone’s toes. Good luck with getting people to share their experiences I say

J_D · Apr 14, 2022

Nodge68 said:
This is a vehicle related question, rather than an SDD related information or help.

It's best to ask the question in the forum for the vehicle in question.

However from experience of replacing the ECM in the Freelander 2, it was pretty straightforward with SDD, but this was for a 2009 model, which is different to the 2013 onwards vehicles, which had extensive wiring and module differences.

But if you do manage to reprogram the ecm or any other modules might be worth adding working reults and methods to this thread as well.

Nodge68 · Apr 14, 2022

J_D said:
But if you do manage to reprogram the ecm or any other modules might be worth adding working reults and methods to this thread as well.

Yes, if it's generally helpful for others in the same situation, then I guess it's acceptable to be included here.

The issue with the vehicle in question appears to have been caused by someone else, which is unlikely to be of much use to future users of the thread.

I think its better to keep unrelated noise to a minimum, as this helps the thread be more useful long term.

Wheeler7534 · Apr 14, 2022

I completely understand what your saying with lots of rubbish . But this fault might become more common than you think, I’m told that if battery voltages drop them it bricks the car, if a cheaper mongoose cable is used it will also do this and if the procedures of programming isn’t carried out to the dot it will also do this so hopefully it comes in handy for someone else. But by the looks of it no one knows anyhow haha

Nodge68 · Apr 15, 2022

Wheeler7534 said:
I completely understand what your saying with lots of rubbish . But this fault might become more common than you think, I’m told that if battery voltages drop them it bricks the car,

Normally low battery voltage will put the the JCB in "CRASH MODE", which will shut down major vehicle systems, put the hazards on, pop the door locks, kill the fuel pump, and apply the parking brake.

However the CRASH status won't stop the vehicle from being started, once the ignition has been cycled. An explanation of this is in the owners handbook of the Freelander 2, which is the vehicle that the Evoque is based on.

SDD is capable of running a full diagnostic on all systems, and will also remove any relevant crash status codes from the vehicle. I removed crash status from my FL2, and another FL2 owned by a neighbour.

Wheeler7534 said:
if a cheaper mongoose cable is used it will also do this and if the procedures of programming isn’t carried out to the dot it will also do this so hopefully it comes in handy for someone else.

I use a Mongoose and a dubious copy of SDD to do everything on the Freelander 2, and had no problems so far.
I had an issue with a misfire on mine, and when checking the wiring to the ECM, I found that it had the wrong ECM installed. It started just fine, so it had clearly been configured to the vehicle, however it wasn't correct as it was a "stop-start" ECM, so flagged a communication code relating to a the not installed battery condition monitor.
Using my Mongoose lead and copy of SDD, I was able to run a routine to replace the ECM with a second hand correct ECM (LR say this isn't possible), but was easy to do, however it does require the use of an additional power supply for the vehicle, as battery voltage is critical when any programming operation is being performed.

Unfortunately were still learning about these complex vehicles, especially where the intricacies of the electronic systems are concerned.

However from my diagnostic experience, it's best to start from the beginning. Make battery voltage is above 12.5 Volts while diagnostics are being done.
Allow SDD to run a full vehicle diagnostic, and investigate each code in turn before moving to the next next. Avoid replacing modules unless you knew they are faulty, as randomly replacing modules often causes more issues than it solves.

Can you post all the codes, including the sub codes, so we can look them up?

Wheeler7534 · Apr 15, 2022

Firstly thank you so much for your advice and help, unfortunately at the time this bloke came around I knew nothing about sdd or how important everything was when programming, he did allow battery voltages to drop below 12v so guessing that’s one issue as it’s bricked. The ECM had gone faulty and would not reprogram he was saying and had lost communication so I have bought another ECM just Incase with the same part numbers. Unfortunately I can’t give any codes just yet as the sdd kit still hasn’t turned up! But I will be sure to do so and post my results after programming etc and hopefully help others out. I really do appreciate everyone’s time. Is it me or does £899 now seem a hell of a lot of money for something everyone else seems to have issue too for less than £100?

Nodge68 · Apr 15, 2022

Wheeler7534 said:
unfortunately at the time this bloke came around I knew nothing about sdd or how important everything was when programming, he did allow battery voltages to drop below 12v so guessing that’s one issue as it’s bricked.

It sounds like he doesn't know how to do any kind of programming on a vehicle. It's absolutely vital that a backup power supply is used, which can be a proper plug in power supply, or simply a set of jumper cables from another running vehicle will do.
Attempting to program any ECU with battery power alone is plain stupid, and will risk corruption of the program, should the battery drop too low while data is being transferred.

I'd get a proper power supply on the vehicle, and connect SDD when it arrives, and see what it says.

Nodge68 · Apr 15, 2022

Wheeler7534 said:
I really do appreciate everyone’s time. Is it me or does £899 now seem a hell of a lot of money for something everyone else seems to have issue too for less than £100?

No problem.
I use a Mongoose clone, and an off the Internet copy of SDD. I paid about £30 from China for the Mongoose cable, which even came with a working and hacked SDD copy CD.
The software is genuine SDD, it's just registered to a garage in China, so the computer it's installed on can't connect to the JLR server, or the copy gets locked out as a duplicate.
I've got it installed on an old laptop, which I also use for diagnostic software for many vehicles, including a cracked copy of Delphi vehicle diagnostics.
I've never had any issues with copy software, and don't believe copy software will cause an issue, as long as it's used correctly, with backup power.

I'd not pay £900 for vehicle diagnostic stuff, unless I was doing it as my job, which is something I stopped doing in 2005.

J_D · Apr 15, 2022

I dont't know what Nodge68 thinks, but I'm not convinced the ecm is at fault.
The CJB has its fingers in the starting pie, Encrypted data so I assume immobiliser type stuff.
Data flow would be needed between the 2 modules and correct key being used.
Its possibly provided you with a vin, although that could also be read from other modules?
The mechanic said the ecm wasn't communicating but got the vin from it?

The Delphi clones seem to work good and can communicate with most modules, and the advantage of not being tied to one make.
Normally the data can bus doesn't have an in and out at the module, and data can be seen by oscilloscope. (£30 cheap ebay works ok to prove a signal)
BBA Reman seem to be decent and have good support forum, they repair/test ecu's.

Hippo · Apr 15, 2022

Sounds like things went wrong during reprogramming. Fatel error part way through when comms was lost due to low power. First step would be to work out how to get it into a state where the computer can be reprogrammed again, and setup to the car.

Wheeler7534 · Apr 22, 2022

Sorry everyone, I didn’t get any notifications anyone had replied. Thanks for all of the above. Okay so the kit has turned up and Iv got hardly any of the modules online now. Every diagnostics codes Iv read, show that the reason is they have no coms with ECU ( including why the steering lock is stuck on. I have got the cloned ecm fitted currently which I cloned off the old ( possibly corrupt ecm) - which is the original one fitted to the car. I’v since bought another ecm which hasn’t been plugged into the car yet, can anyone tell me if I need to get it made virgin before I try to program it into the car please? Or can I plug it straight in and tell it to program as a new module? Thank you guys. Here’s some pics of what I’m seeing . Still trying to get used to this system sorry guys so no pro

Nodge68 · Apr 22, 2022

Wheeler7534 said:
can anyone tell me if I need to get it made virgin before I try to program it into the car please?

I didn't on my Freelander 2. A second hand ECM was configured to the vehicle, dispite it having come off another vehicle. Mine old ECM was working, so the automatic configuration worked. The part numbers were correct for my year and model, however my Freelander is 2008, and many changes took place after 2012.

It's ****ed anyway, so you can't make it worse really.

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