Erm....opps...What have I got myself into this time??

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Saint.V8

Dyed-in-the-wool 100% RR Junkie
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Before I begin, let me get in to position and don my tin hat...

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Imagine this: Driving home from work in a very comfortable 3.5 litre V8 powered BMW 7'er with the nice M62TU35 VANOS engine burbling away in front of you (the BMW is my work conveyance - the L322 with its ISOfix mounts is the baby carriage so my girlfriend now drives that mostly), and at a set of traffic lights a numb skull in a new-ish Toyota Hilux cuts across in front of you cos your in a 'smaller' car than his (the 735 is actually longer than my L322 by a few inches - just not as wide)....I sat there and thought to myself 'if I was in my L322 that wouldn't have happened, 1) cos the L322 is wide and the Hilux wouldn't have been able to get past and 2) I wouldn't care cos I would know I was in a Range Rover and life is great in one of those...'

Barrelling down the M3 doing the 'speed limit' I here a bonk thud tinkle tinkle...looking in my rear view mirror my N/S front indicator is bouncing into the hard shoulder....bugger, I knew I should have tightened that up when I noticed it was loose at the weekend.

No matter order another from euro carparts, I'll take the L322 to work tomorrow.

It is a glorious morning, the birds are singing and the sun is shining, 96.4 Eagle Radio are having a rare good day where all the songs are awesome and are just what I like to start the day with...Bon Jovi, GnR, Steve Vai, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Joe Bonamassa etc etc...some real fecking good tunes and I am in my Range Rover....today is going to be a good day.

'Where's he going with all this?' I hear you scream at your screens....just trying to paint a picture of how much I love my Range Rovers and the fact I am happiest when driving them...

I get to work and start the day, tea break comes round and I browse LZ forums and also Autotrader....

That's when things got a bit dicey......

I saw, I liked, I phoned the guy.....it's in Wembley....12 miles from work (36 miles from home)...I went to take a look....I phoned my girlfriend...she sighed....she agreed..I confirmed..she agreed again........

I THEN BROKE EVERY RULE IN THE BOOK :eek::eek::eek:

When newbies come on LZ asking for buying advice, I for one am always banging on about plenty of them around, take your time, go for as late a model as possible, check everything works and never buy a Range Rover with faults unless you fully appreciate and understand the costs and time involved in repairing it.

So what did I do.....I miss having a Range Rover as a daily drive....when we had floods in February this year, I had to borrow one of the works Disco 4's to go and reach my parents as My L322 was 47 miles in the opposite direction where my girlfriend works....Whenever I want to go shooting, I have to arrange a lift with others as my BMW ain't gonna get me to the shoot site....I don't like not being able to fold the seats down and lug stuff about when I want to do it as I have to arrange with Anna when I can use the L322.......

So I broke all the rules and bought a 1996(N) 4.0SE Bluey/Green P38A on LPG.....:screaming_bug_eye_f

So how did I break the rules??

It is an early model....
It is an impulse buy....
It was the first I had seen....
It has t'issues....
It is not in A1 condition....
But it was the only one in my limited price range....

Don't get me wrong, I went there knowing would I would accept as acceptable issues and faults...and I am proud to say the faults it does have are acceptable to me as a work hack and a load lugging workhorse (didn't really like using the L322 for trips to the dump etc).....

So did I really break the Golden Rule??

Not entirely, I bought a Range Rover with faults, yes, but I also fully understand the potential costs and time involved in repairing the faults it does have....after all this is Range Rover number 7 for me!

The only fault I don't know to much about is the biggest fault it has, It drips about a spoon full of oil from the point around the oil filter, so this could be either a leaking filter seal or a crack in the filter mounting or pump casing....investigation needed.

Yes it is a little rough around the edges, and I knocked him down a couple of hundred so I got it at what I feel is a reasonable price for what I want....

  • it has a crack in the windscreen,
  • the sunroof cover is missing,
  • the dash board near the windscreen vent has warped,
  • the rear passenger window rubber is misshapen,
  • the drivers door rattles when closing it,
  • the central locking doesn't work (alarm still functions),
  • the Sun Roof won't set,
  • it has an aftermarket radio,
  • the Parrot Bluetooth doesn't work,
  • Cruise Control doesn't work,
  • Passenger blend Motor is shot,
  • A/C needs work,
  • idle speed did keep going up them down (traced this to a sticky throttle cable),
  • Headlamp wipers park in random positions,
  • Headlamp washer don't squirt,
  • rear centre brake light is loose,
  • new-ish looking compressor runs for longer than I would think necessary when at extended ride height (bags look newer than original but most likely approaching 6/7 years old),
  • got a slight ticking from the camshaft area when warm (using a mechanics stethoscope sounds like a cam follower not pumping up and is bouncing around a bit),
  • Rear wiper faulty

Good bits:

  • Body work is sound and looks good,
  • Steering is tight and tracks true,
  • New tyres,
  • Brakes work,
  • Lights Work,
  • er...erm....
  • Windows work,
  • Gearbox is responsive and smooth - receipts for fluid and filters recently
  • New Rad at Chrimbo
  • New looking Compressor
  • erm....er...um....running out of good bits....
  • No wet carpets, but then again it hasn't rained for a while...still means Heater O rings are good :D
  • Leather is in good nick
  • um.....I think er...that's it....

To be honest, it is exactly what I was after, a work horse, a daily hack and a vehicle that will return a similar MPG as the BMW...on the journey back through Wembley, Hangar Lane, North Circular, Heathrow, M25, M3 and onto home the dash reported 23.4mpg....so from what I have learned about the OBC and real world figures...I would guess that is in the region of 18mpg on LPG and the BMW would return 19.7mpg as an average....only time will tell....

Driving it feels similar to the DSE with very similar throttle travel and pattern, nothing much happens until you reach about 1/3rd travel and it all picks up about 2/3rds and then runs out of puff.

Not as urgent as the 4.6HSE's I have had, and is NOT a patch on the sheer power in the 4.4 V8 L322....

But I have to admit the seats are comfier in the P38 albeit a tad narrower than the L322 so the side supports tend to hug me a little more than they do in the L322.

Leather is softer but it lacks the wood and look of the L322, but is still a comfortable cockpit to be in.

Would I get rid of the L322 in favour of a P38? Well, as I have said before no, not on your life...is the P38 a good stable mate for the L322 - yes, I think it is....I have said a few times...I'd have a Classic as a play thing, a P38 as a daily driver and an L322 for best!

I'm 2/3rds there! ;)

Anyone wanna buy a September 1999 BMW 735i LPG Glacier Green Facelift model??? :D:D:D:D:D

OK - start the abuse and comments on hypocrisy :fencing:
 

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looks good nothing a little tlc wont sort out:) some times you just have to do these impulse buys good luck with it.
 
sainty you live in surrey ???????? isn't there certain standards to keep up with down in the south ????? ha ha ,,,anyway looks good and sits well so well done and all the little bad points to a capable man with your talents and knowledge then the list will be a piece of cake for you so get on with it and enjoy , ive got a beautiful 2000 - 4.6 v8 petrol / lpg vogue with a great re built engine going up for sale very very soon !!! as I can now no longer drive due to health problems ...im so sad !!!!!! but hey ho ,, good luck with it mate cheers mozz
 
ant nout wrong with downgrading afterall its a workhorse :D:D,joking apart looks tidy & easy to fix might get one myself havnt actually driven one for a few months now the last one I drove was a customers & it was a right dog tbh,if them new tyres are a matched set theres £300 worth there & pssss ant stop hanging round Halfords carparks m8 :D:D
 
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Err your mental, so your getting rid of a perfectly servicable car for what is as reliable as a cocaine snorting middle aged dysfunctional addict
If you were keeping the bmw I would say it was a chance to take, but expecting reliability from a p38-your certifiable.
 
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Nice! Straight and clean, and with my favourite P38 wheels.. I wouldn't be able to resist fitting 2000> lenses & headlamps if it were mine, you just need the Classic now.. burble burble burble..
 
Looks tidy Ant. Word is the petrol ones will start to appreciate in value over the years because they self destruct and are getting pretty rare. Keep it a while and do all the work it needs, keep it tip top and in a few years time it could be worth up to fifty quid. :D:D
 
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Err your mental, so your getting rid of a perfectly servicable car for what is as reliable as a cocaine snorting middle aged dysfunctional addict
If you were keeping the bmw I would say it was a chance to take, but expecting reliability from a p38-your certifiable.
Hand up over here for another mentalist. I've also got a BMW as a work car. 3 series straight 6, fast reliable. And I'm currently looking to change it for a Ga.. Freelander. Screaming bug eye or what?

Well done Saint. Was only a matter of time. I think we must start to loose the plot with the onset of kids.
 
Welcome back to proper Range Rovers Ant:) Always knew you missed the P38, only fault I can see is it ought to have been a diesel. By the bye, did you ever fix the L322 electronic faults and where are the baby photo's promised:D:D
 
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sainty you live in surrey ???????? isn't there certain standards to keep up with down in the south ????? ha ha ,,,anyway looks good and sits well so well done and all the little bad points to a capable man with your talents and knowledge then the list will be a piece of cake for you so get on with it and enjoy , ive got a beautiful 2000 - 4.6 v8 petrol / lpg vogue with a great re built engine going up for sale very very soon !!! as I can now no longer drive due to health problems ...im so sad !!!!!! but hey ho ,, good luck with it mate cheers mozz
Cheers Mozz, sorry to hear your health is bad, and sorry to hear your P38 is going too....stiff upper lip old bean, and don't forget us when its gone!

ant nout wrong with downgrading afterall its a workhorse :D:D,joking apart looks tidy & easy to fix might get one myself havnt actually driven one for a few months now the last one I drove was a customers & it was a right dog tbh,if them new tyres are a matched set theres £300 worth there & pssss ant stop hanging round Halfords carparks m8 :D:D
thanks Wil, it is different to the L322 and is a good drive, for a work horse and daily work conveyance she'll do grand.....and the pictures are from the advert, I didn't take them!!! :D

Looks nice Saint, see you have managed to kerb it already (pic.5):)
Not my faullt, not my pictures....as above, they are from the advert!! but even so, they ain't bad and a bit of fettling would sort.

Err your mental, so your getting rid of a perfectly servicable car for what is as reliable as a cocaine snorting middle aged dysfunctional addict
If you were keeping the bmw I would say it was a chance to take, but expecting reliability from a p38-your certifiable.
I know I know, my brain and heart are in constant battle and the Mrs said that give it 6 months in the bimmer and i'll want my own Range Rover again...

unreliable yes, but we have a third car in the garage which is a bright yellow Fiat 500 Sport, so we have a backup for the inevitable....

Nice! Straight and clean, and with my favourite P38 wheels.. I wouldn't be able to resist fitting 2000> lenses & headlamps if it were mine, you just need the Classic now.. burble burble burble..
love to have a Classic to round off the list, but space, time and money dictate otherwise.....

will be looking at light upgrades, but not in the immediate future.

Looks tidy Ant. Word is the petrol ones will start to appreciate in value over the years because they self destruct and are getting pretty rare. Keep it a while and do all the work it needs, keep it tip top and in a few years time it could be worth up to fifty quid. :D:D
wow, as much as £50 really....quids in!!! :D:D:D

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Hand up over here for another mentalist. I've also got a BMW as a work car. 3 series straight 6, fast reliable. And I'm currently looking to change it for a Ga.. Freelander. Screaming bug eye or what?

Well done Saint. Was only a matter of time. I think we must start to loose the plot with the onset of kids.
there is something about that Green Oval that suckers you in.....yep was only a matter of time before I needed my own Range Rover again after passing the L322 keys iver to my girlfriend....I still drove it, just not everyday and I was pining....!!

Welcome back to proper Range Rovers Ant:) Always new you missed the P38, only fault I can see is it ought to have been a diesel. By the bye, did you ever fix the L322 electronic faults and where are the baby photo's promised:D:D
Cost of diesel against cost of LPG was the driving factor in the decision.

Baby photos on there way, she takes up quite a lot of our day, but she is adorable....a quick pic to keep you happy for now...

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So you are not keeping the E38 anymore? :(
'fraid not, cant keep 4 cars and need to sell on the E38 to recoup on the P38.....
 
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