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Your loss 
Engine swap, what to do?
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LolYour loss
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I don't think so, and neither do they.
Engine changes, and changing fuel, will not make your vehicle ULEZ compliant, next year, or ever.
If your vehicle is not Euro 4 compliant for petrol, or Euro 6 compliant for diesel, as standard when new, it cannot enter the ULEZ without paying the charge, unless it is a historic vehicle.
No Land Rover Nineties, One Tens, or Defenders are compliant.
Your options are.
Get rid, and get a compliant vehicle. Get another vehicle, and use when you enter the ULEZ. Pay the charge. Go on the bus.
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And it still won't make the vehicle ULEZ compliant.
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quite likely iv no idea what rules they are
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Post 43. I know it inside out, because my parents live in the Extended ULEZ zone, which starts next year.
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thats a shame but predictable i suppose, the improvement in air quality during the lock down is going to drive those sort of initiatives
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What really killed Defenders as far as ULEZ is concerned is the lack of a standard petrol engine.
Some other cars, and even 4wds, of the same period as late Defenders are compliant, because they had petrol engines.
Frankly, driving a Defender in London isn't a great pleasure anyway.
I didn’t know that. I thought all petrol was exempt
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LEZ, that is more or less the case.
ULEZ is different. At the moment, the ULEZ only covers the same area as congestion charge, a couple of square miles in central London.
Next year, 2021, the ULEZ will roll out to the North and South Circular Roads.
There is a TfL website, with all the details, and a number plate checker, to see if your vehicle is eligible.
But in effect, it is what I have said. Euro 4 for petrols, Euro 6 for diesels, historic registered, or public transport.
Sounds like a distaste for my Landy then!
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Not just yours. No Defender, or Ninety/One Ten, are compliant.
Most Series are compliant, because they have been registered as historic vehicles.
If you really need to drive inside the extended ULEZ, the easiest way to go is to get a compliant car. These include Petrol engined Fords from 2001, and a Focus or similar can be bought from about 500 quid now.
I have a compliant car. A 3.0cc petrol Jag
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3.0 cc engine should have no problem complying with emissions legislation.
The 3.0cc does comply and its an 04 plate3.0 cc engine should have no problem complying with emissions legislation.
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I would argue that as one of the reasons I chose the vehicle I did, was because when checking the reg online it shows as exempt from both, its a standard td5 110 dcpu.
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Not sure why that should be. Td5s we have entered are not compliant.
Neither are Tdci, a much later engine, with more sophisticated emissions control.
I know they don't pass, because I have a 2 litre Tdci in my Mondeo.
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I was so surprised by your post that I decided to research it a little bit more.
So I selected a late model Defender for sale on Gumtree, and entered the reg number in the vehicle checker.
I was not sure whether to post the result, but on consideration, as they have posted the number plate on Gumtree, they can't be bothered about it.
This one comes up as eligible for the £12.50 per day charge, not sure why yours doesn't.
Found vehicle with registration mark:
PE06URJ Green LAND ROVER DEFENDER 90 TD5
ULEZ charge applies to this vehicle
Daily charge: £12.50
Why: This could be because the vehicle’s details as registered with us show it doesn’t meet the required ULEZ standards OR it's registered outside the UK and we don't hold any details for it.
If you believe your vehicle meets the standards, you will need to register it with us.
How you register your vehicle will depend on its country of registration:
- Non-UK registered vehicles must be registered through our partner, EPCplc. You will be taken to their website
- UK-registered vehicles can be registered directly with us
The checker ONLY checks the emissions standard of the vehicle. To check if a discount or exemption applies to your vehicle - and whether you need to pay the charge - go to Pay to drive in London.
No LEZ charge due for this vehicle
The LEZ is different from the ULEZ - it doesn't apply to cars and motorbikes. This vehicle either meets the required emission standards, is exempt from or not affected by the scheme, or is subject to a 100% discount.
Information is based on what we know about your vehicle. This may change without warning - always check to see if you need to pay to drive in London.
Check your zone
If you're not sure where the zones are, use our ULEZ zone map and LEZ zone map to check if you're driving into or within any of the zones.
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If you're thinking of buying a new or second-hand car, look up its emissions in real-world driving conditions on the Mayor's Cleaner Vehicle Checker.
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I was also surprised when I stumbled across it, the only reasoning I can think of is that it's something to do with the double cab or possibly been previously registered as agricultural.
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I wasn't doubting what you said, but I am extremely surprised, because I know Td5 engines are not Euro 6 compliant.
As far as I know, body shape or style has no bearing on ULEZ, and neither would previous registration, there is a section on the TfL website about that too. ULEZ is purely about engines, and emissions.
I can only imagine that you are slipping through some kind of glitch or loophole, maybe some vehicles were wrongly entered on the site.
If I was in your position, I would print out what you posted earlier, including the number plate, and keep it, in case of any issues with TfL later.
I would also suggest deleting your number plate off the forum, it is a security risk, although a minor one, to post number plates.
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