Electrical Failure

TAKdriver · Jan 10, 2016

biketeacherdave said:
I did find a much cheaper one with the correct high output I'll see if I can find it, in the end I had mine refurbed

Will any competent auto leccy person do a refurb ? I've still got my old one.

biketeacherdave · Jan 10, 2016

TAKdriver said:
Will any competent auto leccy person do a refurb ? I've still got my old one.

Competent being the word the set point is the main thing and only genuine parts some will use pattern parts which will ultimately fail my guy I use is very good after a short chat about the set point he was on the case

Rick-the-Pick · Jan 13, 2016

Have you checked the under bonnet fuse box. When these fail it can knock a new battery out in two days.

tony2 · Feb 28, 2016

Hello again.
Been a bit drawn out but, finally got round to checking out the problems on the Rangie. (better late than never).
Battery Drain.... Tracked it down to the Computer under the seat constantly waking up and taking the battery down.
Now, I have owned the Rangie for 5 years, been in the same location, and never had this problem before. The receiver is the latest type with the blue spot.
Disconnected the Antenna wire and now the computer sleeps like a baby. What could be going on ?. Then I remembered that the battery drain problem started at the same time that Vodafone carried out a major upgrade on a mast which is about 400 yards away. Seems as technology moves on we may experience more problems with receivers.
Dead Electrics.... All electrics failed and came back after 5 minutes. Checked and cleaned all power and earth cables, nothing untoward found, checked underbonnet fuse box and found slight scorching around one of the blower relays. Searched this forum and various other sources on the net, and it seems that in most cases, when this happens it's the fuse box at fault. some sites recommend changing it every 5 years !
So I have ordered a new genuine Landrover under bonnet fuse box from Island 4x4 and hope this will be the end of my problems.
Will let you know when it arrives and is fitted.
Cheer all.

tomcat59alan · Feb 28, 2016

A blue spot on the receiver means nothing. Open it up and check the innards with a photo that has been posted on here. Do a search

tony2 · Feb 28, 2016

Thanks, will check it out.

tony2 · Feb 28, 2016

Holy s**t, just googled the RF Receiver and it's selling for nearly £300 including VAT !!!
They were a rip off at £150. Seems the rarer they get the more expensive they get.

tomcat59alan · Feb 28, 2016

tony2 said:
Holy s**t, just googled the RF Receiver and it's selling for nearly £300 including VAT !!!
They were a rip off at £150. Seems the rarer they get the more expensive they get.

Fit a second remote switch as posted by BrianP38dse.

brianp38dse · Feb 29, 2016

Here you go the cheaper option
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f10/rf-reciever-work-round-258096.html

martyuk · Mar 2, 2016

The last time I checked, Island 4x4 were the cheapest at £200 +VAT. Still not as cheap as it should be... for what it is... but a bit less than dealer prices!

tony2 · Mar 5, 2016

Update....
Well, it's been a week since I disconnected the RF antenna so , I tried starting the car and away it went,no more flat battery.
The new fuse box arrived Thursday and I have fitted it today.
Time will tell if it was the cause of my electrics failure or not, but I do hope it was.

tony2 · Mar 19, 2016

Guess what......the electrical Gremlin is back !!!!!
Driving home yesterday when suddenly electrics start playing up again. Same thing radio went off, instruments stopped working, gearbox fault etc.
I was only 100 yards from home so, I parked up, turned the engine off and tried to restart it, no go, starter just clicked. Checked battery with volt meter, reading 8.9 volts.
Had to go out so used other car. Returned an hour later and the battery was reading 12.2 volts and the Rangie started. All back to normal.
As stated before, I have checked all cables, Alternator, and fitted a new fuse box.
Now, my logic tells me that a bad connection somewhere would not make the battery drop to 8.9 volts (if there was was a dead short there would have been smoke I'm sure) and then recover back to 12.2 volts later on.
This points me to a defective battery but, I personally have never known a battery behave like this. I would like to confirm the battery is duff if possible before shelling out more cash on a new battery.
Is there anything on the car that could drag the battery down like that without causing a fire ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Grrrrrr · Mar 19, 2016

tomcat59alan said:
A blue spot on the receiver means nothing. Open it up and check the innards with a photo that has been posted on here. Do a search

Blue spot is original. Green is the latest.

Grrrrrr · Mar 19, 2016

tony2 said:
Guess what......the electrical Gremlin is back !!!!!
Driving home yesterday when suddenly electrics start playing up again. Same thing radio went off, instruments stopped working, gearbox fault etc.
I was only 100 yards from home so, I parked up, turned the engine off and tried to restart it, no go, starter just clicked. Checked battery with volt meter, reading 8.9 volts.
Had to go out so used other car. Returned an hour later and the battery was reading 12.2 volts and the Rangie started. All back to normal.
As stated before, I have checked all cables, Alternator, and fitted a new fuse box.
Now, my logic tells me that a bad connection somewhere would not make the battery drop to 8.9 volts (if there was was a dead short there would have been smoke I'm sure) and then recover back to 12.2 volts later on.
This points me to a defective battery but, I personally have never known a battery behave like this. I would like to confirm the battery is duff if possible before shelling out more cash on a new battery.
Is there anything on the car that could drag the battery down like that without causing a fire ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cell shorting in the battery?

tony2 · Mar 19, 2016

It must be something to do with the battery internals but, so unusual to be intermittent. Normally if a battery fails it remains failed !!!
Thanks for the info on the receiver, I thought the blue spot was the latest.....oh well more money.

odyssey · Mar 19, 2016

I've not read the whole thread, and I know you've said the alternator's been checked, but have you checked its charge rate since this happened? If it's stopped charging while the car's been running, the battery will have taken a hammering. but when you switched off, it can have recovered enough to start it.

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tony2 · Mar 19, 2016

Hi odyssey.
When engine running showing 14.3 volts across the battery so, looks like it's ok.

brianp38dse · Mar 19, 2016

Is that 14.3 volts with lights and everything on.

tomcat59alan · Mar 19, 2016

Grrrrrr said:
Blue spot is original. Green is the latest.

There are three versions fitted to the P38, there has been a photo of the innards posted on here. Unscrupilous sellers will change the spot.

tomcat59alan · Mar 19, 2016

Just do a search "rf receiver photo" it's still there.

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