Electric or hydrolic winch?

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Well spotted Treestump. It looked wrong from the moment I posted the first questions.... and it's slipped though a couple of times since. What a silly bunt.
 
Thanks BigAndyT and Widget..... one thing is for sure, whatever I decide to buy, it will have been well researched.

I like the sound of the electric power steering pump driving the hydraulic winch. I'll check with Mile Maker. Does anyone else have any info on electric PAS pumps for a Defender 110 XS?
 
DavidStreet said:
Thanks Ratty.

Does anyone have any experience with electro-hydrolic winches? Who makes them? Any recommendations?

Cheers.
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We have a couple of breakdown trucks with them on. Also about 80% of our spec lift fleet use them for powering the specs (underlifts). They aren't as fast as a correctly coupled hydraulic pto and winch but they are just as powerfull.

Have a look on ebay for 'electric hydraulic pump' or 'tail lift pump'.
 
Ratty yer at it again what bloody language was that last post in. English please for us less hairy owners:D

ratty said:
We have a couple of breakdown trucks with them on. Also about 80% of our spec lift fleet use them for powering the specs (underlifts). They aren't as fast as a correctly coupled hydraulic pto and winch but they are just as powerfull.

Have a look on ebay for 'electric hydraulic pump' or 'tail lift pump'.
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DavidStreet said:
Does anyone else have any info on electric PAS pumps for a Defender 110 XS?
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It would be on a separate circuit and not plumbed into the steering system - therefore it could be any pump.

The simplest solution is to either add a mechanical PAS pump in the place an A/C compressor would go. Or replace the LR PAS pump with a ZF74 PAS pump and pressure relief valve to protect the steering box (both available from Milemarker).

As Ratty says, any pump producing 100 bar or thereabouts will do the job to power the Milemarker up to the full 12000lb pull (the stock LR pump produces about 50 bar, and limits the winch power). Speed is a product of the volume, and a PTO will provide that if you're in a hurry.
 
Thanks Ratty and Widget. My winch specification is taking shape. Probably going for a 100 bar electric pump to power the hydraulic winch.
Now it's time to get into the detail of selecting those items and ensuring that they will fit behind a nice bumper.

Cheers guys, you've all been very helpful.
 
As widget says if it makes the right pressure it will give you the same pull. What I found with my one was that pressure = pull and flow rate = speed. You might get the same pull but at a painfully slow speed when at low load if the pump doesn't flow enough. Ideally you want a high flow rate to give you a good line speed and the right pressure (follow the winch makers spec) to give you the pulling power.
 
I'm hoping that there's room in the engine bay for the electric pump. I also guess there's going to be an oil reservoir and cooler mounted somewhere discrete too. Anyone done this before?
 
DavidStreet said:
I'm hoping that there's room in the engine bay for the electric pump. I also guess there's going to be an oil reservoir and cooler mounted somewhere discrete too. Anyone done this before?
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The ones we use on our specs have the pump and resevoir all in one. Another added advantage of this type of system is that you can use dash switches and/or wanderleads instead of the normal hydraulic levers.
 
Hi David.
On my td5 short base i set up M.Marker 10.500 lb(4 m.ago) with standard LR pump and working .
I can strong suggest M.Marker hydraulich for boat of 3 tone and off road drive,first try standard then PTO sistem.(pto is jaguar on defender).In Croatia i pay M.Marker winch 1.300 euro & 150 euro for my Master man of hydraulic job .
 
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