Easy one advice please

sheriff · Sep 10, 2015

Can I change oil filter without getting oil all over without dropping the oil first ! Just need to fit new filter for my own peace of mind. Only done 2000mls since oil change. Thanks guys

The Mad Hat Man · Sep 10, 2015

yes = big plastic bag over filter and unwind thru bag and then drop filter into bag

wattfield · Sep 10, 2015

If you mean without draining the oil, no!

jamesmartin · Sep 10, 2015

sheriff said:
Can I change oil filter without getting oil all over without dropping the oil first ! Just need to fit new filter for my own peace of mind. Only done 2000mls since oil change. Thanks guys

you dont need to drain the oil just use a rag if filter fits in from the top, or bag if fitted from below as said

wattfield · Sep 10, 2015

jamesmartin said:
you dont need to drain the oil just use a rag if filter fits in from the top, or bag if fitted from below as said

I stand corrected!
I always do both anyway.

sheriff · Sep 10, 2015

Sorry guys forgot to say she's a Rangey Sport HSE 3.0 TDV6. Ta muchley

Saint.V8 · Sep 10, 2015

That has an external filter bowl doesn't it??

The Mad Hat Man · Sep 10, 2015

:nopics:

Saint.V8 · Sep 10, 2015

The Mad Hat Man said:
:nopics:

Shame they got rid of most of the smilies and emoticons thingys!!

The Mad Hat Man · Sep 10, 2015

Saint.V8 said:
Shame they got rid of most of the smilies and emoticons thingys!!

yup

lazy bastids

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gencybay · Sep 10, 2015

Don't move to Jaywick.

G~

sheriff · Sep 10, 2015

Saint.V8 said:
That has an external filter bowl doesn't it??

The filter is on top of the engine in the 'V'

sheriff · Sep 10, 2015

Reason why I'm only doing the filter is since its service at dealers she has a nasty habit of belching clouds of white smoke now and then and only when I accelerate smartly ease off and the smoke stops. Had car stood in P and took her all way upto rev limiter and no smoke Recently had a 200mile motorway run and at 60mph when not in fifties gave 40.8 mpg so engine seems spot on its just this irregular smoking that's doin mi ed in. Only thing that was done on engine at service was oil and filter so I want to replace filter for my own peace of mind. I'm just stuck for what's causing the smoking.

gencybay · Sep 10, 2015

sheriff said:
Reason why I'm only doing the filter is since its service at dealers she has a nasty habit of belching clouds of white smoke now and then and only when I accelerate smartly ease off and the smoke stops. Had car stood in P and took her all way upto rev limiter and no smoke Recently had a 200mile motorway run and at 60mph when not in fifties gave 40.8 mpg so engine seems spot on its just this irregular smoking that's doin mi ed in. Only thing that was done on engine at service was oil and filter so I want to replace filter for my own peace of mind. I'm just stuck for what's causing the smoking.

Never up revs in park. It breaks things.

G~

jamesmartin · Sep 10, 2015

gencybay said:
Never up revs in park. It breaks things.

G~

how so

jamesmartin · Sep 10, 2015

sheriff said:
Reason why I'm only doing the filter is since its service at dealers she has a nasty habit of belching clouds of white smoke now and then and only when I accelerate smartly ease off and the smoke stops. Had car stood in P and took her all way upto rev limiter and no smoke Recently had a 200mile motorway run and at 60mph when not in fifties gave 40.8 mpg so engine seems spot on its just this irregular smoking that's doin mi ed in. Only thing that was done on engine at service was oil and filter so I want to replace filter for my own peace of mind. I'm just stuck for what's causing the smoking.

it wont be anything to do with filter,egr issue or poor injectors

blackstrat · Sep 10, 2015

gencybay said:
Don't move to Jaywick.

G~

Nicely done

gencybay · Sep 10, 2015

jamesmartin said:
how so

Subject: Transmission Failure during Exhaust Emission Testing

Situation: There have been reported isolated cases of automatic transmissions failing during a High Idle Exhaust Emissions Check. The failures have resulted from a preconditioning procedure where the engine is held at high rpm for a prolonged period of time. The following applies to all states which have a High Idle Exhaust Emission Check.

As the internal transmission components experience normal wear over time, the possibility of transmission damage exists if the vehicle is operated for extended periods of time at high rpm in PARK or Neutral. Such operation does not constitute normal operating conditions. If, in exceptional cases such as A/C recharging, injector cleaning, charging system tests, or emissions testing, vehicle operation at high rpm in PARK or Neutral is required the following setup procedure must be performed prior to beginning such operations.

Solution: The emissions test must be conducted with the engine at operating temperature. If the engine is not at operating temperature prior to beginning the test, it is recommended that the vehicle be driven for a short period of time to bring the engine to operating temperature. DO NOT run the vehicle at high idle to achieve operating temperature.

Once the engine has reached operating temperature, the following pretest procedure must be performed BEFORE testing begins.

Setup Procedure for I/M Emission Test

1. Shift to PARK.

2. Turn engine OFF.

3. Wait at least 30 seconds.

4. Restart engine, LEAVE TRANSMISSION IN PARK. After the engine is started, DO NOT move the gear shift selector through the Forward or Reverse gears before or during the test sequence. DO NOT EXCEED 2000 RPM.

5. Begin emissions test procedure.

6. If the vehicle fails the emission test, some states allow for an extended pre-conditioning before the repeat test. In this case the following procedure should be adhered to.

Precondition Procedure

1. Shift into PARK and turn the engine OFF for 30 seconds.

2. Restart engine, LEAVE TRANSMISSION IN PARK.

3. Engine may be preconditioned at a maximum of 2000 RPM for up to 90 seconds, at which time the repeat test must begin.

If the above steps are not followed, serious transmission damage can result.

Note: Due to the unusual nature of the emissions check, this type of failure does not take place under normal operating conditions.

Think I read that this holds true for P38s too.

G~

gencybay · Sep 10, 2015

@jamesmartin

"The problem is that after starting the engine, and selecting any gear, forward or reverse, the front clutch pack in the transmission is pressurized, and that pressure is not bled off when park or neutral are selected."

Internet doctor diagnosis I know and you are the expert, but you did ask.

G~

sheriff · Sep 11, 2015

I would have thought that iffy injectors or fuel issue would have given black smoke not white, on the egr point don't know other than she has two I'm told which are bl**ders to get to. Just wanted to change oil filter without p*ssing oil all over and not having to drain the oil for own satisfaction. Only took her to main stealers for service to keep LR warranty valid, which has now expired

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