EAS front bag changed now went to use my trusty FCR and no sign of life HELP!!!!

Datatek said:

No the MSV can have 3 identities, so for example you could have 2 single vehicle licenses each locked to a different vehicle. I reckon if you have more than 1 P38 it's better to go for multi vehicle

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He does not have a MSV he has an FCR as far as i know. As far as i understand it the MSV is around the £600.00 mark the one he has is a FCR(fault code reader) he bought in the discount £183.00 offer.

wammers said:

He does not have a MSV he has an FCR as far as i know. As far as i understand it the MSV is around the £600.00 mark the one he has is a FCR(fault code reader) he bought in the discount £183.00 offer.

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FCR is one car only as far as I can see.

Datatek said:

FCR is one car only as far as I can see.

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Yes that is why i asked the question when he said he had bought another licence and swopped it to his other vehicle. BBS seemed to comfirm that if you buy another licence you can swop it to another car. Which i think he did. But surely if he has two licences he should be able to swop one to the other to use it on both vehicles. It appears you cannot. So my first statement a while back is correct, that if you want to use an FCR on two vehicles you have to have two FCRs or pay BBS £20.00 to change it over each time you change the usage. You cannot swop licences too and frow even though you own them, if he wants to use it on his other car again he will have to buy another licence. Money for old rope springs to mind.

wammers said:

Yes that is why i asked the question when he said he had bought another licence and swopped it to his other vehicle. BBS seemed to comfirm that if you buy another licence you can swop it to another car. Which i think he did. But surely if he has two licences he should be able to swop one to the other to use it on both vehicles. It appears you cannot. So my first statement a while back is correct, that if you want to use an FCR on two vehicles you have to have two FCRs or pay BBS £20.00 to change it over each time you change the usage. You cannot swop licences too and frow even though you own them, if he wants to use it on his other car again he will have to buy another licence. Money for old rope springs to mind.

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I don't think it's another licence as in the MSV, it's simply a change of vehicle. On a simple code reader/clearer it does seem a bit restrictive to be able to use it on just one vehicle. Always read the small print:doh:
It would be usefull if, like the MSV, it could have 3 identities as many RR owners have more than one vehicle

yes lads i have a FCR, BBS guy emailed me back and allow me to quote......

Hiya Garrett

Although technically possible, and added as a means to cover future market
possibilities, should they ever be needed, I am sorry, but we currently
just do not provide the possibility of 2 or more licences at once on the
FCR, just as we do not offer an MV version of it.

It was primarily developed and is quite specifically marketed and supplied
soley as a per vehicle tool, to be kept in the intended vehicle at all
times, particularly for emergency type use, and designed to co exist as a
much lower cost alternate to our MSV-2 full on equipment.

If we started adding additional vehicles or functionality to it, as per
our MSV-2, even with an associated additional cost, then it really
detracts from the value and worth of the MSV-2, which does not help us or
our existing owners.

Regards
Colin

so there you have it, its a no go. such a shame

Datatek said:

I don't think it's another licence as in the MSV, it's simply a change of vehicle. On a simple code reader/clearer it does seem a bit restrictive to be able to use it on just one vehicle. Always read the small print:doh:
It would be usefull if, like the MSV, it could have 3 identities as many RR owners have more than one vehicle

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It could be open use on any P38 but he would not sell as many would he?
Business is business. If Mothercare had ever found a way of locking safety pins to an individual nappy think of the business possibilities.

Ahem. Notice that I am conspicuously refraining from making any comment. No, its no use. I shall say nothing.

P38_Ireland said:

Hiya Garrett

Although technically possible, and added as a means to cover future market
possibilities, should they ever be needed, I am sorry, but we currently
just do not provide the possibility of 2 or more licences at once on the
FCR, just as we do not offer an MV version of it.

It was primarily developed and is quite specifically marketed and supplied
soley as a per vehicle tool, to be kept in the intended vehicle at all
times, particularly for emergency type use, and designed to co exist as a
much lower cost alternate to our MSV-2 full on equipment.

If we started adding additional vehicles or functionality to it, as per
our MSV-2, even with an associated additional cost, then it really
detracts from the value and worth of the MSV-2, which does not help us or
our existing owners.

Regards
Colin

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*thinks silently to self* "wonder why he chose not to put that reply directly in this thread? never mind, i shall not comment."

Hiya rasheed & all.
If someone had asked the question on a post, i would have replied on the post, but as it was an E-Mail, i replied by E-Mail. Nothing odd or noteworthy about that.

My reply to Garrett also contained nothing that i would not specifically wish to be made public.

It is only sensible and intelligent for me to design the FAULTMATE FCR as flexibly as I possibly can. My own personal FCR for example, works on any Model, any VIN, right up to current 2010 /2011 production models.

The FCR also has some other really quite stunning and un imaginable usage possibilities.

That might surprise you, but it is after all our latest product, took well over a year to develop and with such a rapidly changing market, it is only sensible and business savvy to be forward looking and have such reserve capability if it is ever needed.

However, regardless of the FCR's additional capabilities, as stated, my reason for developing the FCR was very specific, and is supplied and marketed specifically along those lines. We do after all, already have a system in the shape of the MSV-2 EXTREME that can do everything the FCR can and much more. This can already be purchased to use on any Model, any VIN.
Much cheaper of course if you only want it for one vehicle.
And like the FCR we have provided a cheap route to enable such owners of our equipment to swap between vehicles

Regards the Red highlighted part of your quote.
I regard anyone who invests one of our systems to have made a worthwhile investment of not only money, but trust in us and our equipment.
It is enevitable that our hardware and software evolves and improves and even gets cheaper. I think everyone appreciates that to some degree.

But as well as doing my best to ensure BBS stays in business at all, adapting to cope with the current very difficult times that are seeing so many go under, i have been quite carefull to ensure that any development we make does not significantly detract from the value and investment in our equipment already made by our existing customers. This extends into discounting policies.

I have also made sure that our software developments especially, are totally back compatible, and even owners of equipment purchased 10 years ago, still benefit from any changes and improvements we might make today.

My comment was but a reflection on that factor in support of my overall point.

BTW I had not noticed this discussion prior to now, else i might have posted up with clarification, however it seems that even without my input there are sufficiently clued up members here able to clarify.

I hope this helps explain things better.