Early MOT???

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

Just a general question really.. The MOT for my D2 is in September.. I plan to take it for it's test 30 days earlier, to give me plenty of time to sort anything that comes up that I was not expecting while still being able to drive on the current certificate..

Just wondering how many others MOT early.. or like myself until recently, didn't know you could do an MOT 30 days early and still drive on the current certificate even if it fails..

Nige

gstuart · May 28, 2018

Nige4927 said:
Just a general question really.. The MOT for my D2 is in September.. I plan to take it for it's test 30 days earlier, to give me plenty of time to sort anything that comes up that I was not expecting while still being able to drive on the current certificate..

Just wondering how many others MOT early.. or like myself until recently, didn't know you could do an MOT 30 days early and still drive on the current certificate even if it fails..

Nige

hi

i also put mine in 30 x days early , i always thought if it fails u can’t drive it regardless if there’s still 30 x days left on the old mot

will double check

gstuart · May 28, 2018

just double checked

can’t drive it on the original MOT if it fails

https://www.motoringresearch.com/ca...er-an-mot-fail-if-the-old-test-hasnt-expired/

Extract

Some drivers put their car in for an MOT early to find out if any faults need repairing, mistakenly thinking they can use the vehicle until the old test runs out.

A lot of speculation exists around the topic online, with a number of sites claiming that drivers are within their rights to continue using a car with an in-date MOT certificate, even a tester has since deemed it unroadworthy.

But now the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) has updated its guidelines, saying: “You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if the MOT hasn’t run out.”

It adds that the only exceptions are to drive to have the defects fixed, or to a pre-booked MOT appointment.

If you’re caught driving a car in a dangerous condition, you could face a fine of up to £2,500, a driving ban and three penalty points.

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

I have checked and you CAN still drive the car on current MOT, however if the failure was something dangerous and you continue to drive you are committing an offence of driving a vehicle in an unroadworthy condition and you won't have any defence of you didn't know because of the MOT test..

Still very useful for things like a warning light not working, or emissions failures etc..

Nige

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

this needs more research then because I got completely different answers

Nige

Wimblowdriver · May 28, 2018

I don't have a definitive answer - but an opinion - I assume you would still have a valid MOT so unlikely to get pulled for not having one. But if the early MOT test shows up a dangerous fault, for eggs sample serious brake defects, you would find yourself in a difficult position with your insurance company if you had an accident and tried to make a claim. And the defects will be recorded for all to see.

gstuart · May 28, 2018

Nige4927 said:
this needs more research then because I got completely different answers

Nige

interesting as u say, indeed that’s what i’ve always understood ref if a vehicle fails ur not allowed to drive it on the old certificate

have a link somewhere of the 2018 regs , will have a quick look but know there are a few people here who will know 100%

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

This from DVLA clearly staes you CAN drive your car with a valid MOT after failure

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

Another reference here

https://www.autonetinsurance.co.uk/...2012/03/09/failed-mot-can-i-drive-my-vehicle-

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

gstuart said:
just double checked

can’t drive it on the original MOT if it fails

https://www.motoringresearch.com/ca...er-an-mot-fail-if-the-old-test-hasnt-expired/

Extract

Some drivers put their car in for an MOT early to find out if any faults need repairing, mistakenly thinking they can use the vehicle until the old test runs out.

A lot of speculation exists around the topic online, with a number of sites claiming that drivers are within their rights to continue using a car with an in-date MOT certificate, even a tester has since deemed it unroadworthy.

But now the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) has updated its guidelines, saying: “You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if the MOT hasn’t run out.”

It adds that the only exceptions are to drive to have the defects fixed, or to a pre-booked MOT appointment.

If you’re caught driving a car in a dangerous condition, you could face a fine of up to £2,500, a driving ban and three penalty points.

Mate I think you should check that link you posted and read the update at the bottom... I am presuming you missed it and didn't miss that bit out on purpose lol

Nige

gstuart · May 28, 2018

Nige4927 said:
Mate I think you should check that link you posted and read the update at the bottom... I am presuming you missed it and didn't miss that bit out on purpose lol

Nige

no didn’t intentionally leave anything out, lol

so by the looks of it u can drive it unless it has a dangerous fail on the vehicle

must admit though as @Wimblowdriver mentions ref the ins, if u had an accident on leaving the MOT test centre in how u stand, or if u would have to notify ur ins company first

nothing like a minefield, lol

http://www.ukmot.com/Your-MOT-Questions/Expired

You can get an MOT up to one month, minus a day, before the current certificate runs out and keep the same renewal date. So if your MOT was valid until 10 June, you be able to renew it from 11 May without it affecting your anniversary date.

Until 19 May 2018, if your vehicle fails its MOT you can drive it away if the existing MOT certificate is still valid - as long as it meets the minimum standard of roadworthiness. When the new MOT laws take effect from 20 May 2018, any faults found will be categorised as either dangerous, major or minor. If a vehicle has a dangerous fault, it will not meet the minimum standard of roadworthiness, so obviously you will not be able to drive it legally, even if it still has an unexpired MOT certificate. Major faults may make the vehicle less safe and could put other road users at risk, or could relate to emissions. Therefore, if your vehicle had a major fault you would need to take advice as to whether you could legally drive on your unexpired certificate, as it would depend on what the fault was.

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

gstuart said:
no didn’t intentionally leave anything out, lol

so by the looks of it u can drive it unless it has a dangerous fail on the vehicle

must admit though as @Wimblowdriver mentions ref the ins, if u had an accident on leaving the MOT test centre in how u stand, or if u would have to notify ur ins company first

nothing like a minefield, lol

Insurance companies will always look for a way out... Still this would be very useful for non dangerous fails.. for example a over eager tester that spots a EGR blank, or an annoying warning light.. or headlight pattern, if your driving during the daylight not a danger.. gives you time to sort it without being vehicleless

Nige

Moron · May 28, 2018

Nige4927 said:
I have checked and you CAN still drive the car on current MOT, however if the failure was something dangerous and you continue to drive you are committing an offence of driving a vehicle in an unroadworthy condition and you won't have any defence of you didn't know because of the MOT test..

Still very useful for things like a warning light not working, or emissions failures etc..

Nige

If you take a vehicle for an early MOT and it fails.......your current MOT is no longer valid , it doesn't depend on what it fails on

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

Not according to the DVLA it isn't... on their website.. and countless others now.. see the links already posted... seems to be a myth thats been seen as fact

Nige

Turboman · May 28, 2018

Nige4927 said:
Not according to the DVLA it isn't... on their website.. and countless others now.. see the links already posted... seems to be a myth thats been seen as fact

Nige

I wouldn't interpret it like that, and I doubt if the police would either.

If a vehicle has failed an MOT, it is not in a roadworthy condition, and shouldn't be driven.

gstuart · May 28, 2018

i’ve got a headache now, lol

blue beasty · May 28, 2018

Very little has changed.

If your vehicle fails its technically unroadworthy but unless it's stated that the fail is dangerous you can still drive it to repair or retest.

It's always been the case that a copper could ticket you if they wanted to for whatever the fault is but not charge you with having no mot.

That's always been the case.

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

Turboman said:
I wouldn't interpret it like that, and I doubt if the police would either.

If a vehicle has failed an MOT, it is not in a roadworthy condition, and shouldn't be driven.

A failed early MOT does not invalidate your current MOT, this is not an interpretation it's factual and is clear on the DVLA website..
Not all MOT failures are safety related..

Turboman · May 28, 2018

Nige4927 said:
A failed early MOT does not invalidate your current MOT, this is not an interpretation it's factual and is clear on the DVLA website..
Not all MOT failures are safety related..

Up to you. I might just mention, your original post indicates a considerable lack of knowledge of the subject.

Do what you like, but don't come back snivelling if you end up with points on your licence.

Nige4927 · May 28, 2018

Turboman said:
Up to you. I might just mention, your original post indicates a considerable lack of knowledge of the subject.

Do what you like, but don't come back snivelling if you end up with points on your licence.

Wow, OK, don't see the need for such a response.. I won't come "snivelling" back as you put it.. My OP was just curious if others MOT early, I haven't stated I'm an authority on the subject and have merely posted links to the DVLA website.. I haven't advocated driving a car in a dangerous condition and have stated several time that this could be useful for failures that are NOT safety related..

Nige

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