DRL's Are Good... Aren't They???

Doo · Mar 21, 2017

I don't care if you like them or not, I get's noticed and that's most important

Let's hear it then, I have my armour on

You can see the lamp guard ripple in this close up, that's one of the three that were badly broken...

Anyway, here's a not so close up....

gstuart · Mar 21, 2017

Doo said:
I don't care if you like them or not, I get's noticed and that's most important

Let's hear it then, I have my armour on

You can see the lamp guard ripple in this close up, that's one of the three that were badly broken...

Anyway, here's a not so close up....

personally i think they are a good thing

not a bad thing to make urself more visible

gold rover · Mar 22, 2017

gstuart said:
personally i think they are a good thing

not a bad thing to make urself more visible

If they can't see a Range Rover in their path, they should have a white stick.

This is one of those 'each to their own' things. My Volvo has DRL, as has every Volvo I've had since the 80s. Only because they come that way due to the laws in Volvo land. In either vehicle,if the weather dictates, I will switch on side lights and then if necessary head lights. I see no reason to put lights on in good lighting.
DRLs only started on vehicles other than Scandinavian because people thought 'ooooo they've got something I haven't. I'm going to pretend my Metro is a Volvo" . A bit like the sticking of yellow plastic over headlamps at one point for some reason?!
However, all that said , @Doo , if you like them, then who cares what the rest of us think

gstuart · Mar 22, 2017

gold rover said:
If they can't see a Range Rover in their path, they should have a white stick.
This is one of those 'each to their own' things. My Volvo has DRL, as has every Volvo I've had since the 80s. Only because they come that way due to the laws in Volvo land. In either vehicle,if the weather dictates, I will switch on side lights and then if necessary head lights. I see no reason to put lights on in good lighting.
DRLs only started on vehicles other than Scandinavian because people thought 'ooooo they've got something I haven't. I'm going to pretend my Metro is a Volvo" . A bit like the sticking of yellow plastic over headlamps at one point for some reason?!
However, all that said , @Doo , if you like them, then who cares what the rest of us think

agree they need glasses if they can't see a rangie coming along the road , the amount of times someone has decided to pull out right in front of me

however as u say , if the person likes them , then why not ,

would be boring as well if everyone done there's all the same

alas like motorbikes having there lights on to try and make themselves as visible as humanely possible

wasn't it as said volvo that had the first drls on there cars

plus can't be a bad thing having them ,

every little helps, lol

gold rover · Mar 22, 2017

gstuart said:
agree they need glasses if they can't see a rangie coming along the road , the amount of times someone has decided to pull out right in front of me

however as u say , if the person likes them , then why not ,

would be boring as well if everyone done there's all the same

alas like motorbikes having there lights on to try and make themselves as visible as humanely possible

wasn't it as said volvo that had the first drls on there cars

plus can't be a bad thing having them ,

every little helps, lol

I get why bikers do it. Lots of people don't 'check for bikes' and lots of bikers like to nip in and out of traffic, or open the throttle and metaphorically let their hair blow in the wind. Not everyone doesn't check and not every biker does the aforementioned, but enough of both do, making lights another tool in the fight against the 'organ donor' tag. Although from my own perspective, a biker in hi-vis catches my eye quicker than one with his lights on. As lights only help when pointing directly at you.
I'm not sure if Volvo were the first but they were the first I saw with them, many , many moons ago.

Rick-the-Pick · Mar 22, 2017

Range Rovers have headlight daytime running. You just need to turn them on.

Who would wish to have them on with the extra cost of the fuel.

Volvo's have them as standard & can't be turned off, but a range rover?

pwood999 · Mar 22, 2017

There's a "daylight running" option in the Nanocom BECM settings . . . . Off, Headlights or Sidelights.

But I agree with Rick . . . use the switch when they are needed.

wammers · Mar 22, 2017

Rick-the-Pick said:
Range Rovers have headlight daytime running. You just need to turn them on.

Who would wish to have them on with the extra cost of the fuel.

Volvo's have them as standard & can't be turned off, but a range rover?

Correct daytime running lamps can be selected in BECM settings.

Doo · Mar 22, 2017

Indeed, if they can't see a RR coming, but you'd be surprised at the sheer amount of tools who will pull into your path. If you have the DRL's on, I find they tend to hesitate more because they can't judge your speed quite as well with the lights being so bright.

There was a test done many years ago, perhaps on Tomorrow's World or some such where they had a tank on a hill and you could see the outline perfectly. Then, the same tank, the went round it's basic outline with light bulbs and lit them. They were about as bright as side lights, the tank disappeared, blended into the background due to the ambient light. I can't remember the term for it, but I always remembered that sidelights in daylight are about as much good as a fart in a jar.

Anyway, the reason for the DRL's in my case was I paid 55 quid for the LED headlamp bulbs and I like driving with lights on so thought "ooh, that's gonna burn them out quicker...!" Hence 10 quid for the DRL's. And they come on soon as I fire the engine as I wired them to one of the engine relays.

Besides, George blends into nothing on a bright sunny day as she's sky blue, so better to get noticed

gold rover · Mar 22, 2017

Rick-the-Pick said:
Range Rovers have headlight daytime running. You just need to turn them on.

Who would wish to have them on with the extra cost of the fuel.

Volvo's have them as standard & can't be turned off, but a range rover?

The DRLs can be turned off on my model Volvo but it's an absolute faff, so I've left them as standard. Not sure about other models.

bankz5152 · Mar 22, 2017

gstuart said:
personally i think they are a good thing

not a bad thing to make urself more visible

Except at night or poor conditions when the **** at the wheel doesnt realise they are unlit from the back and have poor visibility from the front...

gstuart · Mar 22, 2017

bankz5152 said:
Except at night or poor conditions when the **** at the wheel doesnt realise they are unlit from the back and have poor visibility from the front...

we'll learn something every day

i did assume they also lit up at the back, never really gave them a thought if i'm honest

but agree though if someone forgets ref the back lights not coming on

bankz5152 · Mar 22, 2017

Nope just ****ty LEDs on the front. The amount of people I flash because they just have DRLs and no rear lights or proper front lights is very high. Especially black cars or white/silver in foggy/heavy rain. Can barely see em.

If cars have DRLs fitted that should also have automatic lights fitted. Too many f ucking idiots driving around with no lights on.

wammers · Mar 22, 2017

Doo said:
Indeed, if they can't see a RR coming, but you'd be surprised at the sheer amount of tools who will pull into your path. If you have the DRL's on, I find they tend to hesitate more because they can't judge your speed quite as well with the lights being so bright.

There was a test done many years ago, perhaps on Tomorrow's World or some such where they had a tank on a hill and you could see the outline perfectly. Then, the same tank, the went round it's basic outline with light bulbs and lit them. They were about as bright as side lights, the tank disappeared, blended into the background due to the ambient light. I can't remember the term for it, but I always remembered that sidelights in daylight are about as much good as a fart in a jar.

Anyway, the reason for the DRL's in my case was I paid 55 quid for the LED headlamp bulbs and I like driving with lights on so thought "ooh, that's gonna burn them out quicker...!" Hence 10 quid for the DRL's. And they come on soon as I fire the engine as I wired them to one of the engine relays.

Besides, George blends into nothing on a bright sunny day as she's sky blue, so better to get noticed

At the speeds you tell us you drive around at, maybe flashing red and blue lights and a siren would be a better choice.

Doo · Mar 22, 2017

Ha ha, I have booted George a few times, but I mostly sit at 55mph. I'm in no hurry

gold rover · Mar 22, 2017

wammers said:
At the speeds you tell us you drive around at, maybe flashing red and blue lights and a siren would be a better choice.

Even those are not a guarantee that the f/wits see you. You'd be amazed how many people don't see those OR hear the siren until you're sat behind them cursing.

Doo · Mar 22, 2017

The times I have looked in the mirror and spotted the blue lights of an emergency vehicle and looked for a place to pull over, yet the fannies in front or behind me dawdle on with not a care

Mind you, not the 1st time I have seen blue lights and sped up until it was safe for them to pass me.

People are mindless morons when it comes to blue lights... I've seen them just stop, causing the emergency vehicle to stop also as there was nowhere safe to get by

gold rover · Mar 22, 2017

Doo said:
The times I have looked in the mirror and spotted the blue lights of an emergency vehicle and looked for a place to pull over, yet the fannies in front or behind me dawdle on with not a care

Mind you, not the 1st time I have seen blue lights and sped up until it was safe for them to pass me.

People are mindless morons when it comes to blue lights... I've seen them just stop, causing the emergency vehicle to stop also as there was nowhere safe to get by

Sometimes people panic when they see the blue lights. One of the classics is visiting, foreign, drivers pulling over to the wrong side. It's shown to perfection in the filming of the Liver Run, (which was done by Police, Camera , Action) where the guys are tearing through London and a French registered vehicle pulls over to the right and stops. The rest of those who don't notice are just twonks

gstuart · Mar 22, 2017

Doo said:
The times I have looked in the mirror and spotted the blue lights of an emergency vehicle and looked for a place to pull over, yet the fannies in front or behind me dawdle on with not a care

Mind you, not the 1st time I have seen blue lights and sped up until it was safe for them to pass me.

People are mindless morons when it comes to blue lights... I've seen them just stop, causing the emergency vehicle to stop also as there was nowhere safe to get by

does seem some drivers panic or don't seem to notice lights and siren behind them

don't think emergency vehicles expect u to slam the anchors on , but seen plenty who do that with an emergency vehicle behind them

as u say through surprising how many just slam there anchors on and basically block the emergency vehicle from getting past

had one a few years back, police car behind me with blue lights on, was traveling down a single track lane, just accelerated and pulled over at the first opportunity, they put there hand up and said thks , no need for panicking or stress, lol

RAW111111 · Mar 22, 2017

On the subject of modern DRLs only lighting the front, I've wondered why this is. I understand that the vast majority of modern cars with DRLs probably also have auto headlights so in theory they shouldn't ever be driving in the dark on only DRLs, but still, what's the disadvantage of having tail lights on as well?

My '89 volvo has bright corner markers on the front (brighter than the normal sidelights (parking lights) as these are useless in the day), and then the normal tail lights in day time - which makes sense to me, but moderns with LEDs at the front and nothing at the back makes about as much sense as the nonsense inside fog light when turning rubbish you see these days! Best example of that being pointless is my dad's new Q7, where the fogs light up barely anything you can see past the bonnet in the dark when it's foggy, so do absolutely nothing when one of them comes on in daylight just cos you turned the wheel! In fact it was only when i asked him why it did this that he found out it did, and subsequently that he'd paid about £600 for it to do that.

I will be activating the Headlight DRL option on the P38 as soon as I get chance to plug something in that will let me personally. It might be hard to miss but anything that makes it a little more visible can't be a bad thing, and the fuel consumption from having the lights on will be negligible.

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