Does anyone use their P38 Offroad

Datatek · Aug 12, 2013

langley said:
Why dont you just use extended mountings for them?? Would be easier to just lower the sensors i would have thought. Alot seem to use some ally plate.

Let me know about your lift blocks, might be interested in some if they are any good...

Next issue will be relocating the BECM to the roof and moving/ sealing the electrics from low down.... Must be able to extend the harness to the BECM i would imagine..

Have you seen how many connectors there are on the BECM? Don't forget the SRS, EAS, Auto and Transfer ECU's

and if the car has electric seats they will not like getting wet either.

Saint.V8 · Aug 12, 2013

langley said:
Why dont you just use extended mountings for them?? Would be easier to just lower the sensors i would have thought. Alot seem to use some ally plate.

Let me know about your lift blocks, might be interested in some if they are any good...

Next issue will be relocating the BECM to the roof and moving/ sealing the electrics from low down.... Must be able to extend the harness to the BECM i would imagine..

Datatek said:
Have you seen how many connectors there are on the BECM? Don't forget the SRS, EAS, Auto and Transfer ECU's and if the car has electric seats they will not like getting wet either.

See Post #15

Datatek · Aug 12, 2013

Saint.V8 said:
See Post #15

Some indeed have relocated the ECU's, not a job for the faint hearted, at least one has also done away with the BECM completely.

langley · Aug 12, 2013

Other option is utilising the available cabling within the original harness to raise the ECU's to a better location.

Im not looking for a channel swimmer, but I dont like the placement of the ECU as it suffers whenever the carpet seems to get moist..

Assuming i go coil, then EAS ECU will not be there. If not, where does it actually live??
Where are the transferbox/ gearbox ecus??

AS mentioned the vehicle will be used for pay an play sites, so will see some fairly interesting conditions if i get my way. An yes i know they are not originally designed for it (well maybe they are depends on your view).... BUt, i think it will be a fun vehicle to raise some eyebrows with. An im fed up of disco and defender owners peeing on em.

Saint.V8 · Aug 12, 2013

Under the Passanger seat and ABSECU is behind the Dashboard somewhere......

odysseus · Aug 12, 2013

They can go off road?!? You mean pavements, right?

langley · Aug 12, 2013

Read an interesting post on Rangerovers.net.

Suspension lift using original equipment air suspension.

Use rear airbags on the front and use lift pucks at the back, extend the sensors..

Firstly, anyone got any idea how you would fit rear bags to the front?? If lift pucks were to be used on the rear, what would they need to secure to on the vehicle and the airbag??

It obviously works as they do it in the states with incredible results, but, would making it fit be as easy as just using rear bags on the front...

NikTheGeek · Aug 12, 2013

stjohnsmythe said:
Really does seem to be a design oversight that they decided to put the BECM under the seat. Does anyone know where the modules for the L322 are kept? I presume somewhere waterproof?

There's a company in the states that will waterproof any electronic device by dipping it in some magic solution. It was on The Gadget Show as a way of waterproofing phones. If that came to the UK, it would be a great way of protecting the electronics.

https://www.liquipel.com/

Bix · Aug 12, 2013

Who needs any special parts? The P38 is great doing light duty offroading. In the last of the amber indicator photos I was moving house.

To be fair none of that is anything special, I used to do the same stuff in a Escort Van.

... I miss that van. I actually liked it more than my P38.

Datatek · Aug 12, 2013

NikTheGeek said:
There's a company in the states that will waterproof any electronic device by dipping it in some magic solution. It was on The Gadget Show as a way of waterproofing phones. If that came to the UK, it would be a great way of protecting the electronics.

https://www.liquipel.com/

Nothing that I have ever seen will truly waterproof electronics due to the heating and cooling of components.

Datatek · Aug 12, 2013

langley said:
Read an interesting post on Rangerovers.net.

Suspension lift using original equipment air suspension.

Use rear airbags on the front and use lift pucks at the back, extend the sensors..

Firstly, anyone got any idea how you would fit rear bags to the front?? If lift pucks were to be used on the rear, what would they need to secure to on the vehicle and the airbag??

It obviously works as they do it in the states with incredible results, but, would making it fit be as easy as just using rear bags on the front...

Just fit a set of Arnott Gen III's and the appropriate shocks with the mod to the sensor mounts, job done.

langley · Aug 12, 2013

Have you seen how much they cost!!!!!!!!!

Datatek · Aug 12, 2013

langley said:
Have you seen how much they cost!!!!!!!!!

If a job is worth doing, it's worth doing properly

Bodging will end up costing you more.

langley · Aug 12, 2013

Datatek said:
If a job is worth doing, it's worth doing properly
Bodging will end up costing you more.

Completely agree but its still eye watering... although in what im after still not convinced staying on air is the way forwards.

TCubed · Aug 12, 2013

Datatek said:
Just fit a set of Arnott Gen III's and the appropriate shocks with the mod to the sensor mounts, job done.

What benefits do the Arnott's give on road?

willinone · Aug 12, 2013

langley said:
Thanks thats really usefull an im looking at similar size tyres....

Was wondering about just putting 2" lift blocks on the EAS system and dropping the sensors.But, cant seem to find anyone that actually does any for the P38, read about some american ones but i cant find em.

Any idea what the max lift would be, as i would imagine that size tyre would need more than a 2" lift for full articulation.. An maybe wheel arch extensions? Have you gone for any drivetrain enhancements? Are the standard prop shafts happy to run at those angles???

mine was blocked when I bought it and it had been bodged. I reckon the springs would have popped off if I happen to cross axle!

it had a 3" lift with no drive train enhancements and I haven't had any problems. been down a few greenlanes with ruts and its done nicely.

265 tyres sit nicely inside the wheel arches and i'll let you know what the articulation is like later on

melon · Aug 12, 2013

There used to be a bloke with a light blue p38 went to Muddy Bottom and Core. His had a serious lift on it and the spare wheel on the roof rack. Lots of videos of him on YouTube. Wonder if he's a member on here?

Datatek · Aug 12, 2013

TCubed said:
What benefits do the Arnott's give on road?

IMO Arnot Gen III's are pointless for the road, I feel from my experience that Gen II's give a marginally better ride than Dunlops. Arnotts did have a lifetime warranty but that has now reduced to 2 years.

TCubed · Aug 12, 2013

Datatek said:
IMO Arnot Gen III's are pointless for the road, I feel from my experience that Gen II's give a marginally better ride than Dunlops. Arnotts did have a lifetime warranty but that has now reduced to 2 years.

But the Dunlops last ~9 years fairly reliably? What's their warranty?

Datatek · Aug 12, 2013

TCubed said:
But the Dunlops last ~9 years fairly reliably? What's their warranty?

Dunlops have a design life of 7/8 years 80K miles, no warranty other than the Fit for Purpose Sale of Goods act cover.
If and when I have to replace the Arnotts in 5 or 6 years time, I may well go back to Dunlops if they are still available

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