Dmf to solid flywheel!!

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jpbacs12 said:
Hi Lads,

Has anyone on here swapped thier DMF on a TD5 for a solid flywheel? And how did you get one with it?

Cheers JP
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you do that and you will rip your transmission to pieces. Make google your friend and all the info is there as why not to. Also this has been covered several times on here. Just last month was the last time.
 
Ya I have been doing research and I spoke to the guys in transmissions as I work in powertrain at JaguarLandrover, but want to hear some "real world stories" its as i expected. The other thing that people wont think about is that guys like me will have calibrated the driveability to the dual mass flywheel and if you replaced it the pedal maps would be all wrong and besides shock loading the trans the driveability will be crap!
 
jpbacs12 said:
Ya I have been doing research and I spoke to the guys in transmissions as I work in powertrain at JaguarLandrover, but want to hear some "real world stories" its as i expected. The other thing that people wont think about is that guys like me will have calibrated the driveability to the dual mass flywheel and if you replaced it the pedal maps would be all wrong and besides shock loading the trans the driveability will be crap!
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So you are a engineer for Jag/land rover then? Thought a company like jag/LR would have there research done before they discontinued a model
 
blackdog1 said:
I'd leave well alone, but that's the way my mind works, fitted DMF for a good reason.
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your right for sure as they did it to take up all the back lash and play in the system so the box doesnt get shock loaded, and also to make it a little smoother at idle.

I was just curious if any of the challenge guys etc did it!! lol
 
jpbacs12 said:
Ya I have been doing research and I spoke to the guys in transmissions as I work in powertrain at JaguarLandrover, but want to hear some "real world stories" its as i expected. The other thing that people wont think about is that guys like me will have calibrated the driveability to the dual mass flywheel and if you replaced it the pedal maps would be all wrong and besides shock loading the trans the driveability will be crap!
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Perhaps you could give some of your collegues in the design department some hints on useful design.From D3 and RR sport on some of the design features are so poor you have to wonder what they were thinking.My only conclusion is that design only takes into account ease of assembly on the line.There appears to be no thought that anyone will have to work on these cars after.Body removal to do an engine swap - is that really necessary ? Fuel pump belts on TDV6's,now there is a clever idea.I could go on - and on and on.
 
eightinavee said:
Perhaps you could give some of your collegues in the design department some hints on useful design.From D3 and RR sport on some of the design features are so poor you have to wonder what they were thinking.My only conclusion is that design only takes into account ease of assembly on the line.There appears to be no thought that anyone will have to work on these cars after.Body removal to do an engine swap - is that really necessary ? Fuel pump belts on TDV6's,now there is a clever idea.I could go on - and on and on.
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I know what you mean, I've been there myself and struggled!! Alot is to with ease of service at a dealers, and then the major force that drives alot of things is cost! I work in diesel calibration, so I map the engine etc. the amount of times we come up against costing is quite regular. Its the same all over the automotive industry!!
 
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