diff lock (clonking??) when driving.

Problem is the roads aren't there to cater for our hobbies they are there to allow everyone regardless of their mode of transport to get from A to B without hindrance. and when the ruts in the road are deep enough to swallow a disco past it's wingmirrors and leave a tide mark on the windscreen. Then it's fair to say that the road (because that is what they are) is impassable and needs to be repaired.

twinny said:

A agree use it as soon as you hit loose stuff (not gravel)...taught that in the Army to. And knock it off just before you hit the tarmac. Have found it can stick in on some landies so its a matter of using your judgment (check for full lock judder) before you bat off up the road! Look at you hi low knob as above! It aint just up and down!

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what is full lock judder as said above? when i'm at a pay & play day going round the course which gear should i be in high diff-lock?

Full lock judder, when your tyres have quite abit of grip i.e on tarmac and you turn on full lock thus making the difference between the front and back axles greater. You will feel the tyres skipping or juddering then you drive forwards slowly this is how you know that difflock is still engaged.

For pay and play days I always use a mixture of hirange and lowrange difflock always engaged!

Usually for hard bits and or hills 2nd low difflock,
For Steep hill decents 1st gear Low off the brake Difflock,
For bits than need sone momentum I use 3rd gear Lowrange Difflock,
and for travelling around the site on known flat harder ground High range 1st/2nd Difflock
Jai

Thats a above is a guide, obviously you choose a gear that will suit your needs to get you into, through and out the terrain you want to travel. Above is not always correct but its a good starting point for beginners at pay and play days. Jai

jai_landrover said:

Full lock judder, when your tyres have quite abit of grip i.e on tarmac and you turn on full lock thus making the difference between the front and back axles greater. You will feel the tyres skipping or juddering then you drive forwards slowly this is how you know that difflock is still engaged.

For pay and play days I always use a mixture of hirange and lowrange difflock always engaged!

Usually for hard bits and or hills 2nd low difflock,
For Steep hill decents 1st gear Low off the brake Difflock,
For bits than need sone momentum I use 3rd gear Lowrange Difflock,
and for travelling around the site on known flat harder ground High range 1st/2nd Difflock
Jai

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Thanks pal for that, its helped me a lot.:5bdriving::biggrin1:

a vehicles ability is only as good as the driver and the tyres i can take my rear wheel drive van to places most gaylander owners can only dream of but then theres suzi my cheapest and most fun car she is a 400 quid suzuki vitara so no locking diffs but she does have MTs and she can go to places that surprise many on my first ever rtv trial i came second out of 32 and probably upset all of the v8 90,air locker, winch brigade in the proccess im nowhere near the most experienced offroader but momentum and grip beat difflocks and power every time

Er- No!

Think your on about axle diff lockers we're not. If you read the beginning of the thread you may have had a few clues.

A vehicle is only as good as its driver to some extent yes, but not really. You just cant get a westfield kit car to go off road it simply doesn't work.

And what you say is not True. (momentum and grip beat difflocks and power every time) Take a good experienced driver and give him axle diff lockers and you will be stunned what you can do. Sometimes it comes down to weight, grip and an engine with some bollox i.e on a long steep hill climb with virtually no run up V8's and difflockers and a light motor have every advantage and there is bugger all you can do about it.

Its not always about who has the gear I am the first one to admit there are so many people buying goodies before they are even a half competant driver that they miss out all the skill involved in driving competitive trials. I would bet that an RTVer driving a series landy with a few years regular competetive driving under their belt would woop most people ass given the goodies. Its just most of em know how to drive simple. Sorry thats my opinion anyway. Anyone can go and buy a V8 hybrid and do well but whats the fun in that?

The fun is making everything look easy when the V8's and the suzukis are churning up mud at maximum revs when somone else just gets through with what looks like minimum effort with a confident smile on their face thats a better driver. Anyone can blat about its about making it look smooth and effortless. Jai

everyone is entitled to there opinion but i did read the first bit of the thread and never once mentioned blating anywhere that is for main roads or competitions that require high speed but even a sj1 wont stall so power isnt the dogs b******* however without grip and momentum you wont make forward progress as for lightweight if that was the case tractors wouldnt be able to cross a field

Most times you need grip or momentum.
Must agree with Jai, learning in a Series motor will probably give you an advantage whatever you later drive, its down to learning to read the ground. By the same score those who learn in a Freelander will have the same advantage, it's amazing where they will go, but you have to work at it, and I'd be amazed to see a 2wd van follow me to some of the places I've taken mine.

I too have taken old cars offroad greenlaning when my landy was off the road but only lanes I know well and cars that were lets say almost dead. A vaux nova in Clacton was a memorable one.

Driving style and technique can certainly compensate for alot but not everything.

Experience and ground reading is important. I always make a mental note of what tyre pattern has been driven on a lane before attempting it. If i'm on my xcls i know that other similar tyre patterns that have driven the lane. If I see a set of Simex/Insa pattern tyres I know that somone has come prepared and that I may need to be even more alert. I know that If I drive sensible I can read the ground and decide on the best speed/gear/approach to drive into and out of an obstacle either greenlaning or Trialling.
Jai

the only thing ive done to my 90 is put m/t tyres on, the rest is standard. A friend of mine has a 90 with 2" lift kit and diff-lockers front and back. I can follow him every where.