DD and I are going to have a stab at a Toyota engine Hippo. Any inupt would be cool.

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Hey guys,

Long time no post, I been down t'pub wif durdy tratterers.

The Hippo has sat dejected and ignored since september. I int selling it because it's tidy and there's nuffink wrong wi'it apart from the ****ty engine. Me and Diesel Do have been drinking lots of tea, and mulling over what te fook we can do about it. We've found some Sarf African bloke who's been doing Toyota engine conversions using the 2.0l 3S lump. He's wangled it so that the IRD still works.

We reckon he's used an adapter plate for the PG1 gearbox, and that he's worked out a way to bolt the IRD onto the sump of the Toyota injun. Now there's lots of choice of this engine class, ranging from one that are about the same as the 1.8 to much much more powerful ones. Most coming from Celicas.

Looking at it, the only real concern is whether there's enough room between the IRD and the shaft axis to fit the lump, as they is bigger than K serieses.

But I see no reason why this can't be done with a bit of time and cleverness, and tea. The first thing we have to do is call my scrappie and get him to remove the rotting D1 carcass off me drive wots offending me neighbours. The Hippo is good looking at least. Then we can park up and start unbolting things. These 3s engine's aren't eggspensive on fleabay so it won't cost much to buy the lump and test fit it.

DD is keen on using the Toyota ECU, but the onyl question is how it's going to chat to the ABS computer in post 2001 Hippos. But we'll figure that out later. Anyway, if anyone knows these injuns, or has any ideas please pipe up. We'd really like to work out how to solve this problem once and for all in a way that other people can replicate if possible.

Ta,

Will.
 
good luck and put plenty of pics up! ive always thought a honda vtec would be a good engine to fit.... something in my head is telling me there very similar to the k-series???
 
Ya nuts fitting a Toyota engine- all that reliability.( what would I know)

Fit a t series tickford turbo
 
good luck and put plenty of pics up! ive always thought a honda vtec would be a good engine to fit.... something in my head is telling me there very similar to the k-series???

A K20/B18 Vtec engine would be shoite, they have zero torque whatsoever, so would be wholly useless off road and probably quite difficult to drive at low speed unless it were thoroughly remapped to suit

The 3S is a good engine, better all round than the Honda lumps...

What you really want, is the 190bhp 1.8 VVTLi engine (high lift cam, like Vtec, but with low down torque) from the last model celica, the standard 140bhp would be good though. These are the engines now found in the Lotus Elise/Exige

Failing that, the 3S-GE engine from the mk2 MR2 would be nice, 173bhp from '93 til '96 then detuned slightly to 168bhp with a different map for Rev 4 (97 on) models. Sounds nice for a 4 pot. Even better would be the 3S-GTE from the MR2 turbo/Celica GT4, would make an amazing rally car...how would GT4 running gear fare on a Freelander? Just an idea

Cheap knackered MR2's with good engines can be had for under 500 quid, speshly this time of year! Would be like having a V6, but with less weight, more power and better reliability
 
It would be less of a challenge to lift the body off and drop it on a disco.

or run with the "t" series idea that MHM mentioned

Ya nuts fitting a Toyota engine- all that reliability.( what would I know)

Fit a t series tickford turbo

That was my initial thought, but DD reckon's it's not going to be much easier to fit a T series so might as well fit a really reliable lump. I'm still open to the t series f it really is an easier fit - certainly means no adapter plate. Just have to fit an L series bell housing :).
 
Yeh that's a bit dissapointing. It looks like putting the T series in there would at least save the gearbox arsing. I suspect that like this guy you'd have to cant the engine to clear the IRD. Feckin thing.

But I don't want to embark on another doomed project :(. I need another cup of tea and head scratching with DD.
 
Chuckle just be aware it takes a certain insanity to consider these things


But it is worth it
 
My mate Matt was on about fitting a T series lump in one of his Freelanders last year, sorry ,year before now !! This was after a customer rolled up in his with a T series engine fitted. Matt had a drive and reckoned it went like stink, but never saw the customer again. Every now and then he'll go on about fitting the T lump.................when he has time......
 
It would be less of a challenge to lift the body off and drop it on a disco.

or run with the "t" series idea that MHM mentioned

I'd go down the T series route, especially as MHM said "no one on here could do it"!!
T series would require less work as it would run MEMS, share the same clutch and engine mounts as other Rover cars.
 
I'd go down the T series route, especially as MHM said "no one on here could do it"!!.

:D

Yu are a glutten for punishment :)
:praise:

At least yu know it HAS been done before :).

Main problem with the T lump that I know of is an oil leak at front rhs, due to head/block oil way being very close to edge of head and leaking past head gasket. Cure is to bore out mating parts and fit a tube into oil way.
 
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Yu are a glutten for punishment :)
:praise:

At least yu know it HAS been done before :).

Main problem with the T lump that u know of is an oil leak at front rhs, due to head/block oil way being very close to edge of head and leaking past head gasket. Cure is to bore out mating parts and fit a tube into oil way.

The oil leak from the M/T series is the only fault with them. They are a nice strong unit. They could use the standard MEMS ECU suitably mapped so all the HDC stuff will still work. The block is no wider than the L series so IRD clearance shouldn't be an issue. It weighs the same as the L series so those front springs will work.
It shares the same bell pattern as the L series and most clutch components too.
Good luck with whatever you decide ;)
 
I think I am correct in saying the "T" series is a redesign of the "M" series, which is a redesign of the "L" series, so there will be a lot in common, and that is why it is such a strong lump.

It also explains why the "T" turbo fits the "L" & "M" engines :).
 
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