(Clutch?) Spring in the air

Cashpat · Apr 19, 2017

in the picture from a 110 drivers footwell currently being "reviewed", you can see a loose spring, hanging without attachment or purpose. Can anyone shed light on whether this is the remains of an upgrade of sorts to the clutch pedal in a previous life? And if it is something that really can be removed and dumped without fear or favour? Thank you for reading and any advice.

bankz5152 · Apr 19, 2017

It should be connected to the pedal....

That said bin it and fit this spring instead -

Cashpat · Apr 19, 2017

ThNks for the quick reply. I've just noticed this problem today, and there doesn't appear to be any difference tote clutch pedal play at least that's the early indication. I had seen the newer spring mod' somewhere else online in a general scan, and thought this had been the source of the spring's hanging. Seems quite a gap between the bottom of the spring and the clutch pedal but I'm assuming you are telling me that it has to be reconnected regardless of the strain at least until I get the recommended replacement spring set up? If I don't connect it what happens next? Thanks again.

bankz5152 · Apr 19, 2017

That I cant tell you, It assists the pedal returning to battery so im guessing without it wouldnt be great.

£23 for the good spring (lightens the pedal a hell of a lot) takes about 25mins to fit, allow time for swearing and bandaging bleeding knuckles

Cashpat · Apr 19, 2017

Like your style, and knuckles have been getting a battering of late. I will try to reconnect although to be honest I am thinking that it's going to make pedal pushing a lot more challenging, and that might've been why it had been removed. Don't have much mechanical nous and so, the reference to the pedal returning to the battery works. Oh, and I am intending to get the upgraded spring system as soon as funds allow. Thanks for the help by the way it is much appreciated here.

Kwakerman · Apr 21, 2017

With the spring you have you are always pushing against it when you push the pedal down, with the new style you push against the spring for about the first half of the travel and then the spring actually assists you on the second half of the travel once it goes over centre.

Cashpat · Apr 26, 2017

Kwakerman said:
With the spring you have you are always pushing against it when you push the pedal down, with the new style you push against the spring for about the first half of the travel and then the spring actually assists you on the second half of the travel once it goes over centre.

Cheers for that Kwakerman. I get the drift of what you're saying about the upgraded type spring. At the minute, I'm confused as to why I'm able to use the pedal, without any apparent spring that I can see on the bulkhead or around the lower regions of the pedal. First I thought the previous owner might have disconnected/broken off the bulkhead spring in order to affect the new type, but there's no new type on the pedal, so...Any ideas welcome.

Kwakerman · Apr 26, 2017

Cashpat said:
Cheers for that Kwakerman. I get the drift of what you're saying about the upgraded type spring. At the minute, I'm confused as to why I'm able to use the pedal, without any apparent spring that I can see on the bulkhead or around the lower regions of the pedal. First I thought the previous owner might have disconnected/broken off the bulkhead spring in order to affect the new type, but there's no new type on the pedal, so...Any ideas welcome.

There is a big spring in the system, its called the clutch pressure plate, it pushes back on the release bearing, release bearing pushes on the clutch release lever which pushes the slave cylinder piston back into the cylinder which displaces clutch fluid back up the pipe to the master cylinder which pushes back on the pedal.....simples

reiny · Apr 27, 2017

Avoid theswearing and bandaging bleeding knuckles removing the whole pedal box and fitting it on the bench. It's much much easier, believe me.

Cashpat · Apr 27, 2017

reiny said:
Avoid theswearing and bandaging bleeding knuckles removing the whole pedal box and fitting it on the bench. It's much much easier, believe me.

Advice has been duly noted and, hopefully I'm up to following it without making things any worse. Thanks to all again, your help has been very much appreciated.

lightning · Apr 27, 2017

The assist spring is easy to fit if you first disconnect the clutch pedal from the master cylinder.
No need to remove the pedal box. With the pedal released from the master cylinder push rod it will go a fair bit higher, making it much easier to fit the spring.
But you do need a helper to hold the pedal down while you re attach it.
Or wedge it with a block of wood....but make sure it's secure, if the pedal springs up while you are trying to put the nut back on it can trap your fingers.

Cashpat · May 7, 2017

Thanks lightning. Advice was welcome and useful.

lightning said:
The assist spring is easy to fit if you first disconnect the clutch pedal from the master cylinder.
No need to remove the pedal box. With the pedal released from the master cylinder push rod it will go a fair bit higher, making it much easier to fit the spring.
But you do need a helper to hold the pedal down while you re attach it.
Or wedge it with a block of wood....but make sure it's secure, if the pedal springs up while you are trying to put the nut back on it can trap your fingers.

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