Cheesed off :( in need of help please guys sorry....

It's gone awful quiet on here

I don't like it

Hope he gets it fixed, it will be a shame to send it for breaking

Really hope you get it sorted. Gotta be something simple from now, hopefully a complete 'Doh!' moment.

I had one with mine a while back, took what I though was a spare fuse out to put somewhere else, then couldn't work out why my airbag warning was coming on. Wasn't till I looked properly I noticed the 'spare' fuse was actually the SRS!!

Hang in there, it will be worth it when she's running, and she will in the end

Wow. I cannot believe how much support is shown here. amazing. I am no expert on these things and really really hope it gets sorted. Mine is just out of workshop after having crankshaft sensor replaced.
Symptoms when it wouldn't start we're.

1. It turned over but just wouldn't fire
2. Fuel pressure ok
3. Loads of error messages
4. Rev counter stayed completely dead when turning over.

Point 4 was what gave me the clue and the workshop confirmed.

Good luck mate all I can say is when these trucks are working they are so much fun the pain will be worth it.

Mine wouldn't start just there. Went to pick up a set of wheels, and then it wouldn't start. Hit the starter motor with a breaker bar while turning ignition and it started though.

Have you investigated the starter motor? Or is that just not going to be the cause? (I aint a mechanic, so dont know about these things really).

Hi chaps i was comtemplating starting a new tidyier post but have decided against it now due to your great comments etc i would like to remind you all of the story so far to save people going back to the start...

I bought the car 4 weeks ago and drove it back from down south 240 miles return journey with no issues what so ever of any type rangie was perfect... Ther next 2/3 days was spent making it as mint as possible still no problems at all,, then i drove it ten miles to my mates to take him for a spin out in it, driving along the road all the lights and horns started blasting for no reason, after getting the car home i did some investigation work and made a BOOB... this is the criticle information now following...

I removed the fuse box to check inside for corrosion it looked ok and i refitted it, rangie started fine after fuse box removal and refitting but still with the lights problem evident, someone else mentioned unplug the alarm siren, i did and the fault was still there lights and horns still blasting, but car still started and was running fine...NOW in a fit of daftness when i tried to re plug the alarm siren in i moved the fuse box as it was unbolted and the BROWN/GREEN 10mm stud touched earth and caused some sparking as the battery was still connected, (SCHOOL BOY ERROR )at this point the battery was diconnected as it had been at all other times and fusebox secured, then battery reconnected i checked all the fuses and wiring i could see in the engine bay at this point nothing looked melted or no smell or anything all seemed fine...

Tried to start it and the engine turned over but would not start (only since i shorted the the 10mm terminal out) it had been running 5 mins earlier...

Now Doug has been great he been here three times now and this is where we stand...

OK
1.. £50 worth of fuel in tank half full
2.. EBCM has been replaced and tested working fine
3.. Replacement fusebox tried and still non start (original refitted)
4.. Replacement tested ecu fitted and coded in today still non start
5.. Tested for a spark plug in lead plug earthed no spark at all nothing
6.. Plugs were damp and smelt of fuel

So where are we now ???????????

Doug has tried all he can and has saved me some screen captures from his diagnostic equipment to try and upload on here but he has one concern which is this...

GEARBOX error is coming up when we try and crank the engine it cranks in neutral and park, but dont start in ethier but turns over.. he has looked at the screens on his kit and one of the boxes is showing that when the lever is in park its showing in the box on screen is in reverse ??? ive no idea what this means to be fair...

As it stands today as welll ive tested the wires to the coil packs and i have got the following two coil packs both got 3 wire plugs

1. red wire = no live or earth ??(no live or earth)
2. white wire = 12v ignition on live
3. blue wire = nothing at all (no live or earth)

so the summery is this, it ran and started fine till i shorted out the brown and green 10mm stud on the bottom of the fuse box, the new EBCM has fixed the lights issue and horns so thats sorted but still no spark, ive had ecu replaced and coded in still no spark, and tried another fusebox and still no spark..

Seriously though i dont know where to go now, im going to start compiling offers for the car as is via PM onl please make a bid and i will see what happens, im going to speak to some range rover dismantlers too this week see where i stand value wise, 5ok range rovers as clean as this must be good as a breaker...

I would however still like to fix it but im out my depth now to be fair.....

INFORMATION BELOW MEANS NOTHING TO ME BUT DOUG HAS ASKED ME TO PUT IT UP FOR YOU CLEVER PEOPLE TO LOOK AT LOL...

New ecu fitted


In reverse screen below

In park screen below

In neutral screen below

in drive screen below

Well I feel guilty now as I suggested unplugging alarm, I suggested this as when my car is started on the key the lights horn and indicators all flash away like Christmass lights , I unplugged the alarm connector block under my fuse box (with battery disconnected ) reconnected battery and to this day every thing works on start up. But I have no alarm ...but no flashing lights ect ect so I guess I have an alarm fault . That's why I suggested it

I'm now just wondering can you arm the alarm set it off and and reset it to make sure its not stopping the starting off the car???

If you read back neo i posted about the coil pack wiring and what each wire is for etc.

I still think you need to look at the crank sensor as per my previous few posts.

But then again would it inject fuel without the cranksignal??

Saint.V8 said:

If you read back neo i posted about the coil pack wiring and what each wire is for etc.

I still think you need to look at the crank sensor as per my previous few posts.

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Surly doug can read if Cps is working whist turning over saint

How can alarm be set off super lock with some one in it then move about ?? Then reset it, although to be honest if car had been tampers it would not turn over would it

Doug was quearying in the park screen capture the AUTOBOX X/REVERSE says GRN he says that is saying in park that its in reverse ??? as it should be showing 12v im only passing on the infor he has told me ive no idea what this means etc sorry...

The switches can run out of sync due to slack cables but this usually more noticeable between 1/2 towards the end of the travel of the lever itself ie running out of cable to change switch or bad contacts on earlier gears ie 3 4 n r p

To be honest guys my head is up my arse with it ive no idea which way to turn at the moment what would you guys do honestly ???

Rob

neo2 said:

To be honest guys my head is up my arse with it ive no idea which way to turn at the moment what would you guys do honestly ???

Rob

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Rob,hang on in there mate .So much has already been done and you are now only a spark away from a very nice sorted vehicle.It might not seem like it but you will turn this corner ,hopefully very soon.All the big stuff is now sorted,keep at it my friend.

where is the fuel rail valve to test fuel pressure ???

The fuel inhibitor switch can i by pass that ??

Coil packs aint been replaced as yet Saint
Crank and cam sensors aint ethier...

Doug mentioned that the brown and green wire from the fusebox to BECM i shorted to try and trace the path that the that wire take through the EBCM and what other components it powers as it comes out, ie which plugs it feeds and where do they go etc... but its not an eas task with no wiring diagram and no idea what your doing lol....

A breaker is going to offer you a few hundred.

If the rest of the car is as good as the pictures seem to indicate then I'd spend more and get it running. Then I could see it on a forecourt with 4k+ on the screen.

Well neo let me tell you this don't even bother going to a scrap he won't care your get a grand if your lucky
He dont care what condition its in its just a car to him,where as selling your bits wheels engine g box. Ect ect you could over time get you 3 k plus I know it sounds bad but that the bottom of it I'm sure doug knows what he's doing so you could go to a dealer talk explain and go roc a set price look at it but isn't that like chucking money away ,you can also try the I'm a dunce approach on eBay and maybe get a quick 3k if your lucky IMO sorry the truth hurts

i wont break it i will leave that for someone else cant be watching it slowly become a shell i cant have it sitting on the front a bitsza lol....