Buying a series

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gingerhunter

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My aim by the end of the summer is to have a series 2 or a series 3. But I have literally no experience of buying a car as this would be my first so I have a list of questions I hope someone will be able to help me with!

What should I check when buying a land rover?
Is having a canvas top a really bad idea?
Are there any ways I can lower the insurance?
Are there any people/sites I should avoid?
What is the fuel consumption on average for a series 2/3?

Thank you everyone!
 
I'd go and introduce yourself in the relevant section of the forum before the moaners start on you - apparently its good manners.

What you need to check? Well I depends on how much work you are prepared to do. You _will_ end up doing a lot of work on your landy, they need a lot of maintenance even when in tip top nick. If you're handy with a spanner then the only real killers are the chassis and the bulkhead. Everything else is fairly easy to swap and fairly cheap to replace with new or second hand bits most stuff just benefits from a good bit of cleaning and fixing up.

I've had both a ratty old canvas and a new one. Both have been excellent, very little water gets in and much less wet than the condensation you get from a tin-top. Actually quieter (except maybe on the motorway) than a tin top too. With a bit of fettling it is possible to get the cab warm in winter and of course in summer its nice to drive round with it off.

If you have another car anything over 25 years can be insured as classic and usually quite cheap. Adrian Flux are a good place to start

Avoid the bloke I bought mine off! Seriously, if you are worried about forking out £1000 and losing it or having to spend more money to get it working nicely buy something else!

Fuel consumption is 20+ for diesel, 14+ for petrol on an 88. With fettling and spending money they can both be improved but not wildly (I get 20-26 on my fettled petrol). Again if you want something fuel efficient don't buy a series it will never be great it has the aerodynamic of a brick with a parachute and the rolling resistance of a tank.

However, if you have the patience, mechanical sympathy and money then you will love it and spend most of your time happily taking it to pieces and putting it back together again.
 
A V8 series is more economical than a 2.25.......you're looking at single figures if you're in a very hilly area on the 2.25 petrol as its rather gutless

don't agree with single figures. living in the hills, 2.25p(88) is about 16-20, 2.25d(retro fitted in 110) is a bit more at around 20 but it isn't fun climbing hills.
 
I live in Hebden Bridge - every direction from here is up hill, I regularly drive in Cumbria too and get similar (usually better because longer journeys).

In a 2.25 Petrol I can drive in top up most hills and got about 16mpg with a basic petrol and normal diffs and now get 19-20mpg with a fettled one (carb, head cam, 3.54 diffs) and at better speeds.

I measure mileage accurately (brim to brim) and only once gone below 19mpg (when I was doing 100mph+ - never again) on motorways I can get up to 30mpg.

I doubt very much that you can get that from a v8 but you do get a lot more noise...
 
My aim by the end of the summer is to have a series 2 or a series 3. But I have literally no experience of buying a car as this would be my first so I have a list of questions I hope someone will be able to help me with!

What should I check when buying a land rover?...Everything and rust
Is having a canvas top a really bad idea?...........No
Are there any ways I can lower the insurance?.....Not really
Are there any people/sites I should avoid?
What is the fuel consumption on average for a series 2/3? If you're concerned about MPG then a Series ain't for you ;)

Thank you everyone!

Hope that helps a bit. :)
 
I live in Hebden Bridge - every direction from here is up hill, I regularly drive in Cumbria too and get similar (usually better because longer journeys).

In a 2.25 Petrol I can drive in top up most hills and got about 16mpg with a basic petrol and normal diffs and now get 19-20mpg with a fettled one (carb, head cam, 3.54 diffs) and at better speeds.

I measure mileage accurately (brim to brim) and only once gone below 19mpg (when I was doing 100mph+ - never again) on motorways I can get up to 30mpg.

I doubt very much that you can get that from a v8 but you do get a lot more noise...


My V8 averaged 20 from surrey to cumbria 330 miles......thats running on under inflated G90's! I found out they were on about 15-19psi :eek:
 
my suggestion is for you to familiarise yourself with the various models before buying (S1, S2, S2a and S3) there's many that get advertised as one or the other but in reality aren't, bitsas are acceptable but blatant ringers aren't and you really do need to be able to tell the difference

and there's RUST :eek: if anything can rust it will be an old landrover

DO NOT buy sight unseen, find someone local that has half an idea of what they're looking at and go inspect the vehicle with him (take it for a test drive as well), find a local club and get advice/volunteers to help you buy

if you can't weld you'll be paying, if you can't swing spanners you'll be paying and if you can't afford fuel you certainly won't be driving much

88 petrols in general (unless in poor state) generally seem to average around 18-20mpg very few do any more than 24 driven smoothly and some appear to struggle to achieve 16mpg

the insurance will depend on several factors, your age, location, use, etc', being your first car i'll guess you're pretty young

i've never owned a rag top so i can't comment on those, i have a truck cab 88" and a full van bodied 109 both with 200tdi's under the bonnet so they're both pretty noisy, hot in the summer and cold in the winter and both are my daily drivers, they both need fettling on a regular basis

so unless you have plenty of money or mechanical aptitude be prepared for a few shocks with whatever you find, remember ALL Series are at least 30 years old now and unless fully properly rebuilt very recently are likely to require almost immediate attention

have fun learning

p.s.
my preferred model would be a mid to late 60s 2a if i was hunting, early S2 is almost approaching S1 status with certain hard to find/expensive parts and the later S3 suffered the BL (british leyland) cheapskate disease
 
as above, but i think s2s are built so much better than fenders. the metal is thicker and the galv is much better quality.

the ride is a lot rougher though, but bearable :)
 
as above, but i think s2s are built so much better than fenders. the metal is thicker and the galv is much better quality.

the ride is a lot rougher though, but bearable :)

A knackered coil setup feels horrible compared to an ok leaf setup plus less crap to go wrong on suspension overall. Late s3 is a good bet 1980s were a bit better metal wise and have proper seatbelts and 5mb engine if your lucky.
 
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