Biodiesel

coops80 · Mar 10, 2015

hi

I'm just wondering if anyone has advice on biodiesel? Can u run a 2.5diesel Range Rover 1998 on biodiesel? Cheers ry

Littelwill · Mar 10, 2015

Should be able to know a few that are doing.

vilguy · Mar 10, 2015

You can essentially run any diesel vehicle on biodiesel.

Some early vehicles have issues with fuel lines and some seals failing due to the materials used intolerance to it however.

timtheenchanteruk · Mar 10, 2015

300tdi? if so, its fine, only problem thus far is changing leak offs every 18 months or so. I am led to beleive that in the long term (of in excess of 300K on bio) the seal in the injector pump will want changing, when it does, get a viton one fitted.

Datatek · Mar 10, 2015

coops80 said:
hi

I'm just wondering if anyone has advice on biodiesel? Can u run a 2.5diesel Range Rover 1998 on biodiesel? Cheers ry

If it's properly refined bio diesel maybe OK apart from seals failing. If it's veg oil, used or unused, have a look at the grief it caused Johnny crash.

timtheenchanteruk · Mar 10, 2015

Datatek said:
If it's properly refined bio diesel maybe OK apart from seals failing. If it's veg oil, used or unused, have a look at the grief it caused Johnny crash.

i concurr, search ring gumming...

vilguy · Mar 10, 2015

one should be sure you are on about bio and not veg oil. (as many people make that mistake)

clarkkent · Mar 10, 2015

vilguy said:
one should be sure you are on about bio and not veg oil. (as many people make that mistake)

They certainly do.
There are no filling stations near me that actually sell bio.
You may need to change your fuel filter after running bio for a while.

biolandy · Mar 10, 2015

I am coming up to two years of running TD5 on true biodiesel-no issue thus far,previously ran a 300tdi for 2-3 years and yes had to change injection pump drive end seal when it failed.But at 15p per litre,cost savings are massive,already gone past the break even point for TD5 purchase.

danb79 · Mar 10, 2015

Does anyone know of a biodiesel supplier in wiltshire? i cant find any?

clarkkent · Mar 10, 2015

danb79 said:
Does anyone know of a biodiesel supplier in wiltshire? i cant find any?

For some reason bio isn't readily available nationaly.
Supermarkets did start selling it a few years ago but stopped as quick as they started, mainly due to lack of demand.
I'm lucky as there is a WVO professional processer near me, the next nearest is over 100 miles away

Dippypud · Mar 10, 2015

danb79 said:
Does anyone know of a biodiesel supplier in wiltshire? i cant find any?

Greensun Biodiesel used to be in Swindon, are they still there ?

everlatesparky · Mar 10, 2015

P38 diesel is the BMW M51 engine and will run on veg oil but is better on full bio.
I ran mine on it for about 20k and the guy who has it now has put at least another 30k on it with out issue.
You should change your fuel filter after about 2k or so after starting to use bio as it will clean all the crap out of the tank and fuel lines.

biketeacherdave · Mar 10, 2015

just run it on new veg oil at 55ppl with 5%unleaded mixed in it will run better and quieter to

Marmaduke · Mar 10, 2015

biketeacherdave said:
just run it on new veg oil at 55ppl with 5%unleaded mixed in it will run better and quieter to

Where can you get veg oil for 55ppl?

markSX · Mar 10, 2015

:monitor_punch:

everlatesparky said:
P38 diesel is the BMW M51 engine and will run on veg oil but is better on full bio.
I ran mine on it for about 20k and the guy who has it now has put at least another 30k on it with out issue.
You should change your fuel filter after about 2k or so after starting to use bio as it will clean all the crap out of the tank and fuel lines.

My Disco was owned by the guy that now has everlate's P38, it's covered just shy of 100K on bio (I still run it on bio) and the only bio related problem has been the pump shaft seal.

You may find it hard to find bio on the forecourt, this is due to quite high production costs (buying in used oil, chemicals, staff, duty ect), this will be made harder now pump diesel is cheaper than recent years.

biketeacherdave · Mar 10, 2015

Marmaduke said:
Where can you get veg oil for 55ppl?

cash n carry i buy it in 20 litre cubies i love my v8 but im looking for a 2.5 dhse to go with it

everlatesparky · Mar 10, 2015

markSX said:
:monitor_punch:

My Disco was owned by the guy that now has everlate's P38, it's covered just shy of 100K on bio (I still run it on bio) and the only bio related problem has been the pump shaft seal.

You may find it hard to find bio on the forecourt, this is due to quite high production costs (buying in used oil, chemicals, staff, duty ect), this will be made harder now pump diesel is cheaper than recent years.

Evening womble :5bcheers2::5bcheers2:

clarkkent · Mar 11, 2015

Just to clarify for OP.
Bio diesel in it's literal meaning, is an organic based refined product from palm oil or rapeseed for example. This is not on any forecourt I've seen.
Most bio diesel available is made from WVO (waste veg oil) and should be made to a specific high quality.
SVO (straight veg oil) is another kettle of fish and should be researched thoroughly before use.

biolandy · Mar 11, 2015

clarkkent said:
Just to clarify for OP.
Bio diesel in it's literal meaning, is an organic based refined product from palm oil or rapeseed for example. This is not on any forecourt I've seen.
Most bio diesel available is made from WVO (waste veg oil) and should be made to a specific high quality.
SVO (straight veg oil) is another kettle of fish and should be researched thoroughly before use.

Let me correct that for you,Biodiesel is F.A.M.E. (Fatty Acid Methyl Esters) of any vegetable oil or animal oil.But Not from mineral oil.
Biodiesel has a much lower molecular weight than the parent oil and is hence much less viscous and has a lower melting point than the parent oil.

SVO whether used or new is just SVO.

Both fall under the bio fuel umbrella.

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