BF Goodrich AT's on a heavy vehicle around rocks...

I want to put new tires on my '95 Land Cruiser. It came with Michelin AT's
that have some tread left, but I already broke one on a rock while doing
some moderate wheeling on a camping trip last week. I like the snow
performance of the BFG AT; I've run them on my Jeep before and really liked
them for everything but mud. So, before I shell out the $$, are BFG AT's
good and sturdy on heavier vehicles like my Land Cruiser (5500+ lbs loaded)
on sharp gravel roads and large rocks? I'm not talking extreme rock
crawling here, just going up old mining roads, etc.

Thanks!

-jeff

"Jeff Olsen" wrote:
> I want to put new tires on my '95 Land Cruiser. It came with
> Michelin AT's
> that have some tread left, but I already broke one on a rock
> while doing
> some moderate wheeling on a camping trip last week. I like
> the snow
> performance of the BFG AT; I've run them on my Jeep before and
> really liked
> them for everything but mud. So, before I shell out the $$,
> are BFG AT's
> good and sturdy on heavier vehicles like my Land Cruiser
> (5500+ lbs loaded)
> on sharp gravel roads and large rocks? I'm not talking
> extreme rock
> crawling here, just going up old mining roads, etc.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -jeff

I ran BF AT’s on my 4x4 89 Burb for many years from when it was new. I
went through 3 sets of them before I switched over to Michelins. The
AT handled great and did very well on snow and ice but I had problem
with the tires breaking down before they wore out. Broken belts (tires
going out of round) and with one set the base of the tread started to
crack. The tire never went flat on me and I really likded them except
that they just would not last much past 30 to 35K before problems
would develope while about half of the tread remained. The Michelins
have been trouble free 5 years later. Also they were 31 x 10.50’s and
I did keep on top of air pressure too runnng 40 or so in front and up
to 50 in rear when loaded as they were "C" rated tires. My burb
weighted over 7k loaded on a trip and while tire were rated at about
8k I think the weight played a factor in their demise though the
Michelins are rated to the same and have had no problems.

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SnoMan wrote:
> "Jeff Olsen" wrote:
> > I want to put new tires on my '95 Land Cruiser. It came with
> > Michelin AT's
> > that have some tread left, but I already broke one on a rock
> > while doing
> > some moderate wheeling on a camping trip last week. I like
> > the snow
> > performance of the BFG AT; I've run them on my Jeep before and
> > really liked
> > them for everything but mud. So, before I shell out the $$,
> > are BFG AT's
> > good and sturdy on heavier vehicles like my Land Cruiser
> > (5500+ lbs loaded)
> > on sharp gravel roads and large rocks? I'm not talking
> > extreme rock
> > crawling here, just going up old mining roads, etc.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -jeff
>
> I ran BF AT’s on my 4x4 89 Burb for many years from when it was new. I
> went through 3 sets of them before I switched over to Michelins. The
> AT handled great and did very well on snow and ice but I had problem
> with the tires breaking down before they wore out. Broken belts (tires
> going out of round) and with one set the base of the tread started to
> crack. The tire never went flat on me and I really likded them except
> that they just would not last much past 30 to 35K before problems
> would develope while about half of the tread remained. The Michelins
> have been trouble free 5 years later. Also they were 31 x 10.50’s and
> I did keep on top of air pressure too runnng 40 or so in front and up
> to 50 in rear when loaded as they were "C" rated tires. My burb
> weighted over 7k loaded on a trip and while tire were rated at about
> 8k I think the weight played a factor in their demise though the
> Michelins are rated to the same and have had no problems.
>
my friend runs them religiously. the last set he had on his F150 4x4 in
35x12.50/r15 he got almost 60k out of them with no ill effects and he
abuses his truck all the time. the key with them is to make sure you
keep the air pressure in check and rotate them. I have heard all kinds
of people complain about different tires and 90% of them dont rotate them.

"Freebird01" wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
> > "Jeff Olsen" wrote:
>  > > I want to put new tires on my '95 Land Cruiser. It
> came with
>  > > Michelin AT's
>  > > that have some tread left, but I already broke one
> on a rock
>  > > while doing
>  > > some moderate wheeling on a camping trip last week.
> I like
>  > > the snow
>  > > performance of the BFG AT; I've run them on my Jeep
> before and
>  > > really liked
>  > > them for everything but mud. So, before I shell
> out the $$,
>  > > are BFG AT's
>  > > good and sturdy on heavier vehicles like my Land
> Cruiser
>  > > (5500+ lbs loaded)
>  > > on sharp gravel roads and large rocks? I'm not
> talking
>  > > extreme rock
>  > > crawling here, just going up old mining roads, etc.
>  > >
>  > > Thanks!
>  > >
>  > > -jeff
> >
> > I ran BF AT’s on my 4x4 89 Burb for many years from when it
> was new. I
> > went through 3 sets of them before I switched over to
> Michelins. The
> > AT handled great and did very well on snow and ice but I had
> problem
> > with the tires breaking down before they wore out. Broken
> belts (tires
> > going out of round) and with one set the base of the tread
> started to
> > crack. The tire never went flat on me and I really likded
> them except
> > that they just would not last much past 30 to 35K before
> problems
> > would develope while about half of the tread remained. The
> Michelins
> > have been trouble free 5 years later. Also they were 31 x
> 10.50’s and
> > I did keep on top of air pressure too runnng 40 or so in
> front and up
> > to 50 in rear when loaded as they were "C" rated tires. My
> burb
> > weighted over 7k loaded on a trip and while tire were rated
> at about
> > 8k I think the weight played a factor in their demise though
> the
> > Michelins are rated to the same and have had no problems.
> >
> my friend runs them religiously. the last set he had on his
> F150 4x4 in
> 35x12.50/r15 he got almost 60k out of them with no ill effects
> and he
> abuses his truck all the time. the key with them is to make
> sure you
> keep the air pressure in check and rotate them. I have heard
> all kinds
> of people complain about different tires and 90% of them dont
> rotate them.

I kept my air pressure up properly but they still did not last. I had
a lot of cross country trips on them in all kind or weather and temps
as low as minus 40. They just did not hold up on my heavy burb. They
did not even wear funny until they started to break down.

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"Jeff Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I want to put new tires on my '95 Land Cruiser. It came with Michelin AT's
> that have some tread left, but I already broke one on a rock while doing
> some moderate wheeling on a camping trip last week. I like the snow
> performance of the BFG AT; I've run them on my Jeep before and really
> liked
> them for everything but mud. So, before I shell out the $$, are BFG AT's
> good and sturdy on heavier vehicles like my Land Cruiser (5500+ lbs
> loaded)
> on sharp gravel roads and large rocks? I'm not talking extreme rock
> crawling here, just going up old mining roads, etc.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -jeff
>
Jeff: It sounds like you do the same type of travel as I do and I suggest
that you get 3 ply (or better) sidewalls like BF Goodrich TA/KOs. Most ATs
have 2 ply sidewalls that won't keep up to the constant jarring from rough
rocky roads and trails. The TA/KOs have an aggressive tread that helps when
airing down on rocks and a side wall bar for extra protection from sliding
off of rocks and logs etc. Good luck.

Bob Walker