Beginning to hate it

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I liked the looks of it. That was all I did like about it though, was a heap of junk in all other regards. I wouldn't recommend one to anyone though.
 
Datatek said:
Time for a big service before winter, new anti freeze etc. Though I'd remove the RAD to give it a good flush. No chance, bottom bolts so rusted they are unmovable, no access for a cutter or even a drill, would have to bust the RAD to get it out:mad: OK so forget that, flush in situe. Time to drain the block, what a joke the drain plug is not exactly accessable. Managed to blow the water out with low pressure from the airline. Must have got it nearly all out as it has so far taken ten litres to re-fill without running the engine.
Noticed an immediate problem when it comes to getting the air out, the bleed pipe from the top of the rad dips down as soon as it leaves the RAD then goes back up to the expansion tank, perfect for an airlock if it fills with liquid.
I removed it and fitted a length of clear plastic tube which I tied up to the bonnet safety catch giving a good air bleed path.

Why is it that everything on a P38 is either rusted solid or inaccessable?:mad::mad::mad:
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Compared to most "modern" cars I've had they're amazingly accessible. So far I'm most impressed - apart from the fuel tank sender and lift-pump.

Iron (steel) oxidises before aluminium. If they're both in electrical contact it is a recipe for rust!

J
 
StuckAgainSteve said:
I should give you the number of my Landcruiser owning mate - he's on his 3rd head and 5th head gasket - you'll feel better afterwards.
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Odd that all the agencies working in places like Afghanistan, Africa et al use Land Cruisers not Range Rovers, money being no object to them of course.
In my case it would have to be an old land Cruiser before all the hi tech:)
French and Australian military that used to use Defenders now buy G Waggen, I wonder why? Answers on a post card please. Clue LR = crap.
 
Datatek said:
The nuts are bedded in the plastic RAD and just turn with the bolt, short of destroying the RAD fixings there is no way to remove the bolts.
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It's surprising what a fast spinning gun can achieve sometime spins so fast that the nuts can catch or jam them
 
All I can think of is maybe a dremmel with a cutting disc.

I had the same problem with mine in the summer, but as I was also changing the A/C condenser, I simply took everything off, (condenser, intercooler) and removed the rad with its supporting frame... on the bench took a little time and then replace covered in copper slip..
Sounds as though you have done enough for now.
regards
 
i had a pajero it was a good machinr but i prefer the rr so much more i just bought one for the queen the thing about the rr is that you will be well educated when you get rid of it :D education dont come cheap
 
Bloody mice have eaten the pollen filters again. Good piece of design that the plastic scuttle trim has doors either side for vermin. I've now screwed some perforated alloy behind the openings to stop the buggers doing it again. Amazing that they can squeeze past the mountings to get on top of the filter.
 
Datatek said:
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Odd that all the agencies working in places like Afghanistan, Africa et al use Land Cruisers not Range Rovers, money being no object to them of course.
In my case it would have to be an old land Cruiser before all the hi tech:)
French and Australian military that used to use Defenders now buy G Waggen, I wonder why? Answers on a post card please. Clue LR = crap.
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They are crap. But I knew that when I bought one. I think the only decent Land Rover product is a Defender, simple mechanics and easy to fix, anything remotely complex and it's trouble. I read that the current RR Sport has finished last in a recent reliability survey so they haven't improved massively! But, they are 'nice' cars and a great drive (when they work).

I do have to agree that working on them is a bit of a pig. On Saturday I decided to try and do my heater o rings so spent ages stripping the dash down. Finally got to the screw and the first long screwdriver I bought fell apart when trying to turn the screw. So I went and bought another adn the same thing happened. So then I went and bought another! but this one didn't fall apart. Would the screw budge? no, it wouldn't and I nearly stripped the head trying plus got some lovely cuts on my hands :). It was suggested that I should try drilling it out and then I read about someone who cracked the matrix doing this which entailed a dash out job to replace. No thanks. So Sunday I put it back together and put a dollop of radweld in the expansion tank. No more leak. It's a cheap old car that I don't use much, not a 10k L322.
 
If it makes you feel any better I had a call at work today and the missus said she was stranded waiting for the RAC as the clutch had stopped working. Initial guess is that the clutch master cylinder has gone poof! I'm out and about the rest of the week so that's another job waiting for a spare moment. Bugger!
 
my wife has a toyota corolla and she says she wants knothing less than the reliability of that if she is to use it every day.
A Land Cruiser Amazon looks to be the way..
anything I should look out for?
 
Datatek said:
Bloody mice have eaten the pollen filters again. Good piece of design that the plastic scuttle trim has doors either side for vermin. I've now screwed some perforated alloy behind the openings to stop the buggers doing it again. Amazing that they can squeeze past the mountings to get on top of the filter.
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They really are ****e - to own and keep,if it makes you feel any better the D3/RRS and L322's are even worse in terms of running costs/hassle of repair.
I once owned an MA chassis 4.6 HSE - for about 4 hours.(Had a buyer for it) It was a huge relief to part with it.
G Wagens have their "Issues" too,esp when you need parts for them.Cruisers are a better bet,but the brakes on auto ones werent up to it and rust is a bit of a problem too.
Which is why,(Because I need a 4wd for carrying trials bikes,marking out trials,pulling trees/firewood duties and dragging other dead LR's around.) I still have a 300TDI auto Disco,and I'll keep nailing it back together as the rust eats it.Reliabilty is no problem,with proper servicing it just is,unlike either petrol or diesel P38's.
Anyone want a WA chassis HSE with a 4.8ltr ACR engine in it,customer wants rid,I just need to do a couple of small engine jobs,(Pair of Oxy sensors and leads - both are U/S) and its up for grabs....
 
love range rover when they are working fine, hate when they are not, comming to learn this, but you do love them

had a 97 disco before my p38, 2.5 auto, thing never skipped a beat in a year, loaded it up numerous times with 4 people and as much camping gear as we could cram in, and drove hundreds of miles to festivals, was bomb proof for me, sold it to a mate it never let him down, hes just sold it to another mate, maybe its down to previous owners and how well or not they have been looked after
 
2.0_hippo said:
4.2 TD ??? does that make them quick ? lol

what MPG do they do ? :S
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Not in my limited experience, big lazy engine (Pre DiD) simple mechanical injection about 22/24mpg. I had an oldish one for a day to test drive. Tacky interior but well put together:) It was around 10 years old and they wanted €15K for it:eek:
 
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