Freelander 1 Anyone sorted key chip cloning??

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Yes it does. However the fact that a keychip paired to a SAWDOC immo can be cloned proves nothing about your EWS3D system. It's a different keychip and a different immo ECU.
 
My son has a 2004 TD4 Facelift, and managed to get a non-fob key cut & programmed by a local car key specialist. Works perfectly. Blank fob seemed to program ok, but stopped working two weeks later. Not sure why, but the key still works fine a year later.
 
pwood999 said:
My son has a 2004 TD4 Facelift, and managed to get a non-fob key cut & programmed by a local car key specialist. Works perfectly. Blank fob seemed to program ok, but stopped working two weeks later. Not sure why, but the key still works fine a year later.
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A 2004 almost certainly has a SAWDOC immobiliser. Andy is trying to clone a key chip for an EWS3D based car.
 
Sorry to hear Andy hope you can get it sorted out with the suppliers. As mine is a MY2004 it's may be why Timpsons said they can do mine for me, if not as I said I'll just get a key cut & keep it on board somewhere.
 
Just a further heads up on this one.
Desperate to get a second key for my lad's yellow 1.8 F1.
Couldn't do it as above so went to Timpsons. They ordered a blank, put it on a machine which apparently copied the chip in the key in seconds.
Suspiciously, I tried it in the car and 2 problems.
1. Key blank has a shorter recess than original so fits door, ignition but not fuel cap where key goes in further.
2. Chip hasn't worked as no cranking when key put into position 3.
Cost £70.

They refunded in full for non operation.
If anyone knows who can do F1 keys that work please post.
 
From what has been said above, my reading is that the only way with the 'EWS3D' is to speak to LR - or get replacement engine ECU, immobiliser ECU and keys. I wonder if a later ECU and SAWDOC immobiliser will work in a EWS3D manufactured car?

This is going to be a big problem going forward if LR can not (or chose not to) continue to supply keys. It will also be a problem for all cars of the era and for enthusiasts wanting to buy a car and keep them on the road. I wonder if companies will start selling their own proprietary engine ECUs to replace car's originals? Its a complex beast as they link to ABS, dashboard displays etc - as well as the engine's sensors and controls (eg injectors). Each car will be different.
 
The EWS3D can be hacked, but if must be removed from the car to do so, which is not a trivial amount of work.
 
andyfreelandy said:
But does the clone key work?!

I'm on to the seller today to try to solve this. Thanks for info. Yes it is a 2003 car I am trying to do.
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Did you get anywhere with this @andyfreelandy ?

I have only had one key for 5 years now, and its only a matter of time ........

This site seems to give a simple description:
I have a 2001 td4 and so have the "Freelander BMW EWS unit" and my key and fob are indeed the same as in their photos.
they say, "Freelander BMW EWS unit is very reliable BUT the transponder CANNOT be copied." which is my experience after wasting a lot of time here with people telling me hey can do it, but it doesnt work. finally I saw a readout which said "this chip cannot be cloned" or the like.

Do I have any options?
Currently leaving chipped key onboard and using cut key to get in (fob works but last of the lock solenoids, the drivers gave up recently ...)

EDIT: sorry, seem the search missed some posts after yours, but the question remains the same
 
andyfreelandy said:
Quick update. Not going so well!

Bought cloning machine.
Got software.
Set up and got the thing working.
Got a blank key cut to fit car.
Inserted original and the reading went on for hours. It identified the chip as a Philips and the key type as 'BMW rolling'.

Eventually, after 2 hours, I contacted tech support for the machine and was told that it didn't and no machine on the market would clone BMW rolling code key chips!!

So bit stuffed. Will be back to supplier who reckons it has done a Freelander 1 key. Also mystified as to how some report Timpsons managed it. I asked in Timpsons, a big store, and was told they couldn't do Land Rover but he cut the key blank OK for a few quid.

Bit stuck now!!!
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Can’t help with the techno-stuff that the rest of you guys excel at but for what it’s worth I may be able to shed some light on Timpsons.
Mrs DG managed to break the blades of both the keys to her Skoda Fabia at the pivot point (it’s a fold-out key) and my local man in town couldn’t help me but directed me to Timpsons. I went there to see the very helpful guy running the kiosk in Asda (I think) but he was unable to help because their machinery can’t guarantee a perfect result. Apparently one branch produced a key which bricked a car lock and resulted in an expensive lawsuit and the only option for the stores seemed to be to cease producing that style of key. This resulted in me spending an hour or two combining old blades with new fobs but got the job done.
 
No not cracked it I am afraid. Key fobs to unlock and lock car yes but not the key transponder chip.

Invested many pounds and system that was recommended and apparently used by 'professionals' couldn't do it.
 
honestly, just get one from a JLR parts department.
They don't need coding and it shouldn't need diagnostics time. Just cut the blade and it should work.
 
I just phoned the local LR dealer whilst at mum's house in Essex.
They couldn't do anything as my VIN is foreign, but he estimated 500-600 GBP (with 1.5 hrs labour at 200/hr)
I ordered 2 whilst I was at it and told them to take it easy as I didn't want them to mess it up by rushing and only spending 1.5 hours programming it.
 
Bife said:
I just phoned the local LR dealer whilst at mum's house in Essex.
They couldn't do anything as my VIN is foreign, but he estimated 500-600 GBP (with 1.5 hrs labour at 200/hr)
I ordered 2 whilst I was at it and told them to take it easy as I didn't want them to mess it up by rushing and only spending 1.5 hours programming it.
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As theft of the car is not really an issue why not remove the chip from the working key and tape it into the steering column beside the ignition, then get a spare key cut and move on with your life.
For those about to mention insurance I'd be interested to hear about a likely sequence of events that would lead to the insurance company knowing about such a mod.
 
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