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Spring Over Axle.... 
If so, post up some pics and what you think of it.
Cheers.
If so, post up some pics and what you think of it.
Cheers.
Anyone here with SOA?
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Ttt?
blue beasty
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for the life of me I cant imagine why anyone would want to....
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general concensus is, that it's ok for spotty geeks in SJ's but not really doable in a series. I've got spring over axles on the Disco. If a pic of that would get yu ya jollies I'll be happy to post one..
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erm, cost it's an instant 4" lift, massively improves chassis ground clearance, improves under axle clearance, improves approach angle, improves potential wheel travel and flex.
It's also a proven advancement in leaf sprung technology as demonstrated by Toyota with their world beater Hilux pickup truck and of course LAND ROVER with the Series IIb and FC101.
For the life of me I can't understand why people are so blinkered and set in the 1940's
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Considering it's been done, it really proves you are just plain ol wrong. :doh:
Oh look, a factory spec Land Rover with SOA
:doh::doh::doh:
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erm, cost it's an instant 4" lift, massively improves chassis ground clearance, improves under axle clearance, improves approach angle, improves potential wheel travel and flex.
It's also a proven advancement in leaf sprung technology as demonstrated by Toyota with their world beater Hilux pickup truck and of course LAND ROVER with the Series IIb and FC101.
For the life of me I can't understand why people are so blinkered and set in the 1940's
:rolly:but its only my opinion
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So does it move the Diff out of the way as well?? That really is amazing :doh:
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Considering it's been done, it really proves you are just plain ol wrong. :doh:
Oh look, a factory spec Land Rover with SOA
:doh::doh::doh:
Because Land Rover decided to cobble together a lorry from what they had lying about doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.........wonderful as 2bs and FCs are they've always been a bit 'special'
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These images have all been *borrowed* from Devon4x4 - nothing to do with me, just thought i'd satisfy your SOA fetish.
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Sort of yes.
A lift allows bigger tyres to be run without rubbing or any other form of lift needed. But more importantly than just fitting bigger tyres in the arches.... a lift gives them more room to move. A flexy Series will have large wheels fouling the inner rear tub in no time.
And if you care to look under a standard Series Landy, you'll see the diff isn't the only thing lower than the axle tubes....
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Would you care to expand on the technical rational to your reasoning please?
Genuinely interested in why you think Land Rover where wrong with their FC101 setup? I was under the impression that above all the reasons already mentioned SOA also offered greater side slope stability. The Series IIa FC was SUA, so something must have sparked Land Rover to change the IIb FC to SOA.
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Thanks
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I looked into this when I was putting disco axles on my series but decided not to do it. When you do soa they suffer from bad axle wrap resulting in broken diff pinions/propshafts, you have to fit anti wrap bars to stop it which at the rear is straight forward as there's lots of space in front of the axle to do it but the front is harder to fabricate due to all the steering components and the way the springs are mounted.
It's possible on suzukis because the spring shackles are at the front not the back like landys so the anti wrap bars can be fitted to the rear of the front axle.
Have a look at this
http://www.floridalandroverclub.com/forums/v5/message.php?ForumID=5&startRecord=51&pkBBid=18012
It's possible on suzukis because the spring shackles are at the front not the back like landys so the anti wrap bars can be fitted to the rear of the front axle.
Have a look at this
http://www.floridalandroverclub.com/forums/v5/message.php?ForumID=5&startRecord=51&pkBBid=18012
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Cheers for the link.
Don't series motors suffer a lot of axle wrap stock anyhow. My train of thought was to swap the shackles onto the front of the front springs as this should reduce a lot of the wrap straight off. Early Series 1's had the shackles at the front.
I was also wondering about running a longer spring on the front too.
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Yeah they do but it makes it a lot worse with s.o.a, I really looked into this and was determined to do it but I would have had to do too many modifications and would have had to go on a Q plate,if it was just an offroader I'd have done it.
This fella has extended the front chassis and fitted longer springs and by the looks of it it's got more travel than a coiler!
Can't remember where I got the pics from but it was on the net somewhere :doh:
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Cheers.Yeah they do but it makes it a lot worse with s.o.a, I really looked into this and was determined to do it but I would have had to do too many modifications and would have had to go on a Q plate,if it was just an offroader I'd have done it.
This fella has extended the front chassis and fitted longer springs and by the looks of it it's got more travel than a coiler!
Can't remember where I got the pics from but it was on the net somewhere :doh:
I think any such vehicle for me would be off road use only tbh.
That said, I probably wouldn't be altering the chassis, so no IVA would be needed.
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Some years ago changed my series 2a to front shackles after badly bending a dumb iron on a 4x4 trial ,the idea was to save damage[one now had something that gave some at the front instead of being solid]also when the shackle came against a solid object and swung back the spring/wheel was pushed down helping you get out of the hole you were in. Worked well off road but on road there were strange steering effects at times,something to do with the L/rovers steering rod geometry, it coming from one side of the chassis unlike the Jeep whos relay is in the center and why L/rover changed to rear shackles I think. Hope this helps, cheers.
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Cheers fore the info. I've read something similar before, so it's good to get conformation.
Think if I was to pursue such a route it'd be for an off road only vehicle.
