Freelander 1 any one tried these wheels and tyres?

Gaj1612 · Jun 1, 2016

looking to get a set of tyres for the freelander very soon and come across these on ebay, just wondered what other peoples opinions are price seems very reasonable...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/x4-235-60...D4+AWD&hash=item43ea9548f3:g:SxEAAOSws65ToZ0-

Nodge68 · Jun 1, 2016

I wouldn't fit retreads to my vehicle. You can get 5 decent tyres for that money, if you don't need the wheels. Even if you want the wheel's, you'll still need to source a matching spare.

Skinny Mike · Jun 2, 2016

Giving a statement, will fit on freelander 1, is a bit generic. The wheel offset is different for petrol/diesels and a 5mm spacer is required to run earlier wheels on a TD4 or they won't turn.
And as Nodge68 said, don't use retreads.
Mike

Gaj1612 · Jun 2, 2016

thats fair enough then, ill leave them alone. is there any reason not to use retreads or is just a preference thing?

Skinny Mike · Jun 2, 2016

Personal preference. But the tyres may have shiny new treads on, but the sidewalls have still done x amount of miles, doing who knows what.
Yes retreads are much better than they were, but they're not that much cheaper than a new tyre.
Mike

GrumpyGel · Jun 2, 2016

That's not an very ecological view Skinny !

However, retreads are a lower standard than 'new' - as you can tell because they usually have a lower speed rating. It would be interesting to know if they all use the same carcass. That alone might make their operating characteristics different enough to cause problems for AWD. I have been told though that 'cheap' tyres tend to use harder compounds that do not offer the same levels of grip - but do higher mileages - don't know how true that is.

I say 'new' above. These days there is a broad selection in quality even in 'new' tyres as they come from the 4 corners of the world.

I didn't know the offset was different between petrol & diesel. I know brake specs from MY01 mean different wheels are needed for extra clearance, but didn't realise there were different offsets within the model years.

Nodge68 · Jun 2, 2016

Gaj1612 said:
thats fair enough then, ill leave them alone. is there any reason not to use retreads or is just a preference thing?

Ask yourself this question. How often do you see great lumps of HGV tyre treads at the side of the motorway? If you have seen these, you'll know the answer why I wouldn't fit retreads to my vehicle.

Skinny Mike · Jun 2, 2016

GrumpyGel said:
That's not an very ecological view Skinny !

I know, especially from me, I'm all for recycling.
Thing is a tyre is full recyclable. Melt the rubber off and turn into pellets, turn them into rubber mats, buckets, crocs, etc.
Metal can be melted down and reused.
Thing is, it's easier and cheaper to stick em in the ground and hope they go away

Retreads are a great idea and getting better all the time, just not on a car with a 4 wheel drive system.
Mike

Alibro · Jun 4, 2016

Seems like a lot of money for new steel wheels and dodgy remoulds. Look out for some 2nd hand alloy wheels for around £100 and get whatever decent tyre you want. Remoulds are probably fine if only for off road use but not for everyday road use. Would you really trust the most precious things in your life (wife/kids/family/your own life) to dodgy remoulds.

dave21478 · Jun 4, 2016

FFS its not 1974 anymore. Modern retreads are made to tight specifications and have to meet the same safety standards as new tyres.

GrumpyGel · Jun 4, 2016

So to confirm what I SAID about remoulds having a lower speed rating...

Goodyear Wranglers : They don't appear to publish ratings! Couldn't find anything on their US site anyway.

Prielli Scorpion ATR : They don't do 235/60R16, they do a 235/70R16 with speed rating of T (190KMH) and load rating of 105.

Malatesta Koala Remoulds (as in eBay listing) : Speed rating of H (210KMH) and load rating of 100 for 235/60R16 and H (210 KHM) & 106 for 235/70R16.

So just goes to show, I know Jack S**t!

But....
1) The eBay listing describes them as "All weather", the manufacturer describes them as "Winter Tyre".
2) I still wouldn't stick a tyre called "Koala" on my motor - nor would I trust a company selling them!

Nodge68 · Jun 4, 2016

dave21478 said:
FFS its not 1974 anymore. Modern retreads are made to tight specifications and have to meet the same safety standards as new tyres.

Not tight enough for my liking. I had a 10Lb chunk of HGV retread smash my windscreen a couple of years ago.
There's no way I'm going to fit a retread to any vehicle of mine. Why take a risk for a saving of maybe £20 per tyre. Retreads should be banned on a road vehicle as far a I'm concerned.

teddywood1 · Jun 4, 2016

I would not fit remolds as in the 1960s I had the tread come off while on a motorway so never ever again I know things have improved over the years but sorry a big fat no. Also they do not look as though they are a smooth ride they look ruff and ready ,and after all said and done it is your life and possibly somebody else's all supported by a few inches of black rubber, save your money and buy the best you can

dave21478 · Jun 5, 2016

Pretty much every argument against retreads ever right there ^^^^

"I had them in the 60s and one delaminated boo hoo hoo"

You know that was over FIFTY YEARS AGO, right?

Also, you cant compare HGV tyres to car tyres. Truck tyres carry much heavier loads, do much higher mileages and can be retreaded multiple times. The standards applied are not at all the same.

Passenger vehicle retread tyres have to pass exactly the same safety standards as a new set of Goodyears.

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