P38A aircon fans

brianp38dse · Apr 9, 2020

kermit_rr said:
well after weeks of waiting, the condenser has just arrived!! looks goosed to me.. totally crooked!!
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Not worth the risk as you wont know if its all right till is re gassed, then your got to do it all over again

kermit_rr · Apr 9, 2020

brianp38dse said:
Not worth the risk as you wont know if its all right till is re gassed, then your got to do it all over again

it wont remotely fit

not exactly easy to do returns now, either

brianp38dse · Apr 9, 2020

kermit_rr said:
it wont remotely fit not exactly easy to do returns now, either

Thats the bug bare at the moment we all have time on our hands but cant get stuff back and forth, or in my case dare not spend the money as self employed and government wont help much

kermit_rr · Apr 9, 2020

I feel your pain. I'd ordered before all this kicked off

Hope everything works out for you

Grrrrrr · Apr 9, 2020

kermit_rr said:
well after weeks of waiting, the condenser has just arrived!! looks goosed to me.. totally crooked!!
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I had the same from Island. Last time I went there. Had to threaten court action to get my money back. Phoned Hella and they sent one to Allparts for the same price. Fitted perfectly. Interestingly they said they don't supply Island so where that one came from is a mystery.

kermit_rr · Apr 16, 2020

Am i right in assuming the condenser mounts in front of the oil/gbox cooler? I can't see anything at all for the tabs on the condenser to bolt up to! I'm wondering if I'm missing something.
Also, i thought I'd check out the fan operation. In nanocom, there's 4 on/off options, fuel pump relay, ebox fan, condenser fan and cvs valve. The first operates, but the rest give a communication error. This is with ignition on, engine off.
Does engine need to be running or do i have other problems?
Thanks!

wammers · Apr 17, 2020

kermit_rr said:
Am i right in assuming the condenser mounts in front of the oil/gbox cooler? I can't see anything at all for the tabs on the condenser to bolt up to! I'm wondering if I'm missing something.
Also, i thought I'd check out the fan operation. In nanocom, there's 4 on/off options, fuel pump relay, ebox fan, condenser fan and cvs valve. The first operates, but the rest give a communication error. This is with ignition on, engine off.
Does engine need to be running or do i have other problems?
Thanks!

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Datatek · Apr 17, 2020

That's interesting, I was not aware that the aircon condenser fans could be operated from diagnostics. I will have to check it out.

kermit_rr · Apr 17, 2020

Datatek · Apr 17, 2020

kermit_rr said:
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I need to look at RAVE I must have missed something because I am not aware of any electronic control of the aircon fans that would allow diagnostics to operate them
I take it that screen applies to the P38?

kermit_rr · Apr 17, 2020

Datatek said:
I need to look at RAVE I must have missed something because I am not aware of any electronic control of the aircon fans that would allow diagnostics to operate them
I take it that screen applies to the P38?

Yes P38 motronic>motronic>outputs
Assumed it would be related to however it decides the fans need to come on when it's getting hot

Datatek · Apr 17, 2020

kermit_rr said:
Yes P38 motronic>motronic>outputs
Assumed it would be related to however it decides the fans need to come on when it's getting hot

On the diesel, the aircon fans cannot be operated from diagnostics, on the V8 there is an overheat control from the engine ECU, so it may e possible to force operation of the fans on the V8, I don't go near V8's so I cannot check that.

romanrob · Apr 17, 2020

+1 Kermit, that also works on GEMS. Before I got my nano I also got the fans working by jumping the relevant relays in the fuse box

kermit_rr · Apr 17, 2020

romanrob said:
+1 Kermit, that also works on GEMS. Before I got my nano I also got the fans working by jumping the relevant relays in the fuse box

Cheers. Is it a worry the nano won't talk? Or does the engine need to be running? It checks for faults ok and activates the fuel pump relay, so there is some communication there

romanrob · Apr 17, 2020

With the nano sometimes you just need a following wind, Kermit. if you get comm errors then it's best to shut down and restart the nano, and go straight to the module you want. The (GEMS) ECM one works at ignition on, but partial functionality - "engine running" is the sure way to access all, but irritates the neighbours, I have found

greenslade · Apr 17, 2020

kermit_rr said:
Guessing i won't be able to get it gassed up anytime soon, but having the electric fans on just seems like the healthy option!!
Probably need to replace the dryer too as it's been open to the elements for years

Got my car regassed last Saturday at Kwikfit, so don't let lockdown stop you! Bonus was no wait

kermit_rr · Apr 17, 2020

greenslade said:
Got my car regassed last Saturday at Kwikfit, so don't let lockdown stop you! Bonus was no wait

The fact it doesn't fit is the major stopper lol

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