Air in fuel line

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Hmm just a thought but could low oil pressure cause this with it being a mechanical pump? Noticed no oil light today and after filling oil up it started straight up!! All pipes and unions look good.

My other thought was could it just be a blocked breather on the fuel cap??
 
Hi thanks I'll check it.

I may as well try replacing my fuel lines while at it but struggling to find correct petrol ones.

Found 58768 from pump to carb, but does anyone know part numbers for tank pickup pipe to pump?

Many thanks:)
 
The other thing I'm unsure of part no. on is the diaphragm... everyone sells the complete pump but it seems a waste to replace the whole thing if it is just a split in the diaphragm.
 
soydemadrid said:
Thanks I spotted that one but it says 109 whereas I have an 88...
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If the tanks under the seat the pipes probably the same if you can find one. Most likely a diesel pipe would do as well.
If you look at the pump repair kit it does diesel and petrol so I should think the main fuel line is the same for both.
Best get one made up.
 
Great thanks everyone. Got the pump repair kit ordered. There is a great video here

which is really interesting on how these pumps work. He mentions if the sediment bowl seal goes or isn't renewed then air gets in to the fuel - so it may just be that! Sounds about right :) Thanks again for all the help.
 
Ok refurbing the Petrol Lift Pump didn't work :(

I still have the same issue with air in the fuel line. And to complicate things even more, last time I broke down the Land Rover wouldn't even start. I refitted the lift pump and took it out thinking I'd fixed the problem, then I broke down! Manually cranked the lift pump so that I could try start it just to get back home again and the starter motor wouldn't turn. I found a very dodgy looking terminal half hanging off the back of the starter motor with loose wobbly wire. Once I wobbled that around again it started up again no problem!

So is this coincidence or could the issue be electrical? Does the starter motor have to stay active in the electrical circuit when the car is running or does it not matter other than on actually starting of the engine??

Anyway so I need to fix that dodgy wire on the back of the starter motor, but I also found the part number for the Series 3 petrol "Tank Pickup to Lift Pump Pipe" which is 552435

No body sells it any more though unfortunately...

Now I'm wondering if a bit of air in the fuel line isn't the issue and it was that starter motor wire all along - or do I have two unrelated issues both to fix?
 
soydemadrid said:
Ok refurbing the Petrol Lift Pump didn't work :(

I found a very dodgy looking terminal half hanging off the back of the starter motor with loose wobbly wire. Once I wobbled that around again it started up again no problem!

So is this coincidence or could the issue be electrical? Does the starter motor have to stay active in the electrical circuit when the car is running or does it not matter other than on actually starting of the engine??


Well all electrical items including ignition are fed from the starter motor.
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Ah ok, so the starter has to be connected reliably during normal running of engine too? If there was an intermittent connection on the back of the starter motor could that cause my lurching and stalling issue?? Maybe a few air bubbles in the fuel line isn't the reason I'm breaking down!!???
 
All electrics run from the connection on the starter motor . Main cable comes from batt to terminal on starter and the main feed to the dash runs from the same connection. This connection has to be good for all electrics to work.
 
No need to remove starter to check connections. What type of starter motor do you have? Petrol would have had a "bendix" type originaly. This has a plain round casing with a seperate solonoid on the bulkhead but may have been changed to a later/diesel starter with solonoid on the side.Wireing is different.
 
Hi ok I'm back with some photos - I managed to remove the starter motor but actually the terminal on the front that I thought was loose seems firm and looks ok which is disappointing (I though it may be an easy fix), So the starter may not be to blame but instead the solenoid or the cables/wiring perhaps. Anyway I don't know a worn starter motor from a good one so thought I'd post all my photos and get any feedback as to what you all think and if it looks good or may have had it. When it does start the landy up it fires straight up, but then other times I just get a click and nothing. It's got progressively worse with me thinking I had air in the fuel issues and repeatedly trying to restart the car after lurching and stalling and now (well before I removed the starter completely!) it is more likely to not start or even turnover and just click rather than actually fire.

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^ Battery cable to solenoid (does look a bit dodgy...)

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^ Solenoid cable to Starter Motor (Oily etc but looks pretty good)

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^ Starter Motor bushes and internals - no idea here if this looks ok or not really...

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^ Starter Motor bushes and internals again... Connections from bushes to the back terminal do at least look good even though that was what I thought the issue may be initially.

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^ Any feedback is welcome on whether this looks good or not!?

starter-motor-inside02.jpg

^ And here at least we know now it is a Lucas starter motor... again feedback is welcome please. Thanks again :)
 
Hi just an update - a friend who lives up the road took a look at the starter motor and said it doesn't look too bad to him - not much wear etc so he said just clean it up a bit and pop it back!

So I've cleaned it and put it back, put a new earth strap on it and put a new Starter Solenoid in and cleaned up all the contacts and wiring.

However I still just get a "CLICK" when I turn the key to try and start. How frustrating!! I've put my battery on charge tonight to try again in the morning...

One thing I did want to check is when my new starter solenoid arrived the wiring diagram provided with it shows the feed from the battery positive terminal and the cable going to the starter on the opposite nuts/pegs as to what my old one had them?? So looking in to the bonnet from front of car the battery feed was left and starter feed was right - now the battery feed is right and the starter is left! Does this actually make a difference and does anyone know which is correct or do solenoids vary at all? I just bought a Britpart one for Series 2 and 3 petrol vehicles.
 
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