air con fans instead of viscous fan

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Hello!
I also have a Disco 2 and want to put electric(Zirgo) fan instead of visco.
I think that a fan that is "blower" should be mounted in front of the radiator, and a "sucker" or "puller" should be towards the engine(where the visco is located).
Otherwise , if your fan will blow the air to the front(bumper) of the car , the air stream will be cancelled as the car gets speed, and the engine will be overheating as you increase your speed.It's like p...s against the wind.
So...carefull with the Jag or this experience will cost.
 
Hello!
I also have a Disco 2 and want to put electric(Zirgo) fan instead of visco.
I think that a fan that is "blower" should be mounted in front of the radiator, and a "sucker" or "puller" should be towards the engine(where the visco is located).
Otherwise , if your fan will blow the air to the front(bumper) of the car , the air stream will be cancelled as the car gets speed, and the engine will be overheating as you increase your speed.It's like p...s against the wind.
So...carefull with the Jag or this experience will cost.

Sorry it would have helped if I said I moved them to the engine side of the radiator, as I said it's hot here!

The issue here is as follows:

Take two fans of equal power but with the fan blade pitch changed to suit the direction they run in, next fit one in front of the radiator blowing towards the engine.

Now remove that fan and fit the other one on the engine side of the radiator so it is sucking air towards the engine.

Now is there going to be a different amount of airflow or if you like better cooling ability one way or the other assuming all other things equal?

regards

Dave
 
speaking of fans, ive got a 92 disco, with aircon, (twin fans).
never had problems with overheating untill 2 weeks ago, towing the caravan down m5, disco decides to start overheating until i had to stop as needle on the gauge went into the red and the red light came on, since stopping about 10 times on the way to weston then back to brum, ive had the thermostat changed and a new viscous fan fitted, ime not loosing any water, around town the disco is fine but put it on a motorway even without towing and ime having to controll the engine temp with the accelerator, go up a hill and it starts to strugle, give it power and the temp goes up rapidly, get to the top and come down other side, ease off the power and temp drops,.
ive been told a possible head gasket,
any ideas anyone ? please
 
speaking of fans, ive got a 92 disco, with aircon, (twin fans).
never had problems with overheating untill 2 weeks ago, towing the caravan down m5, disco decides to start overheating until i had to stop as needle on the gauge went into the red and the red light came on, since stopping about 10 times on the way to weston then back to brum, ive had the thermostat changed and a new viscous fan fitted, ime not loosing any water, around town the disco is fine but put it on a motorway even without towing and ime having to controll the engine temp with the accelerator, go up a hill and it starts to strugle, give it power and the temp goes up rapidly, get to the top and come down other side, ease off the power and temp drops,.
ive been told a possible head gasket,
any ideas anyone ? please

Hi there, I'd be wanting to look in detail at the radiator.

When was the last time it was thoroughly flushed through? Have you carefully examined it for damage or blockage?

A new one can be had for about £95 plus vat.

Cheers and good luck

Dave
 
speaking of fans, ive got a 92 disco, with aircon, (twin fans).
never had problems with overheating untill 2 weeks ago, towing the caravan down m5, disco decides to start overheating until i had to stop as needle on the gauge went into the red and the red light came on, since stopping about 10 times on the way to weston then back to brum, ive had the thermostat changed and a new viscous fan fitted, ime not loosing any water, around town the disco is fine but put it on a motorway even without towing and ime having to controll the engine temp with the accelerator, go up a hill and it starts to strugle, give it power and the temp goes up rapidly, get to the top and come down other side, ease off the power and temp drops,.
ive been told a possible head gasket,
any ideas anyone ? please


Had the same problem but to a lesser amount, the radiator tubes are probably blocked. I am talking the tubes that carry the water, but also check with a torch and see if you can see light through the fins of the rad.

When driving slowly or with the engine not under load the rad can cope but start to make it work and this is the normal signs of a blocked rad.

Most air con cars are noted for getting dead leaves, bugs, small children ect caught between the two rads. It is easy to undo the engine rad and clean out the crap, do not loosen the air con rad or it will need regassing!

Other than that assuming your fan belt is tight and driving the water pump ok then take the plug out of the top of the rad when COOL and drain off some water so you can see the tubes. If they look even slightly crudy or blocked get the rad rebuilt or a new one.

Another tip is get the engine hot and watch the bottom hose as you rev the engine quickly from idle, sometimes the bottom hose gets soft and starts to collapse on itself restricting flow, this is a common problem out here (on all makes) because of the heat.

To help with the check of the head gasket take of the expansion cap carefully when the engine is warm and the thermostat is open and look for bubbles (read big bubbles) in the water.

You do not state if it is petrol or diesel but if a petrol V8 then the distributor has been known to stick in the retard position causing overheating at high speed and when towing heavy loads.

Binding brakes but again unlikely.

You state that you are not loosing water and to be honest once the head gasket starts blowing into the cooling system which is rated at about 13psi and cylinder pressures in the 250 psi or 400psi + (diesel) it is not long before water starts getting forced out of the cap, so at the moment of writing the head gasket sounds OK but it will not last if you keep running hot.

You can also get a chemical test to detect combustion gases in the coolant.

No doubt somebody will come along with some other ideas so keep checking back.

Hope this helps

regards
Dave
 
speaking of fans, ive got a 92 disco, with aircon, (twin fans).
never had problems with overheating untill 2 weeks ago, towing the caravan down m5, disco decides to start overheating until i had to stop as needle on the gauge went into the red and the red light came on, since stopping about 10 times on the way to weston then back to brum, ive had the thermostat changed and a new viscous fan fitted, ime not loosing any water, around town the disco is fine but put it on a motorway even without towing and ime having to controll the engine temp with the accelerator, go up a hill and it starts to strugle, give it power and the temp goes up rapidly, get to the top and come down other side, ease off the power and temp drops,.
ive been told a possible head gasket,
any ideas anyone ? please

sounds more towards possiblt head gasket or as metioned i would say a water pump first as its a cheap and easy job.

been through all this myself and a good days work on the car has caused it to over cool belive it or not, if i stay on full throttle with a heavy load it struggles to rech the quarter mark on the gauge now, if normal driving it will stay on the very first white line.

as mentioned, every time i have been off road i always blast the rads out from the engine bay and the grill, despite this, upon inspection the rads seem really clean but on removal of my rad the ****e stuck between them was shocking and had rotted my rad on one side, 117 quid inc vat for a new rad, new thermostat, cooling system flush, and a wash out with a hose pipe, summer coolant, and removed all aircon including the rad a fans as i dont wanna risk overheating againg and its easy to clean the engine rad. also fitted a 300 tdi viscous.

before this my gauge would sit over the 3 quarter mark and get hotter if i stayed under load, i carry about 2 tonnes of sheet metal every few days.

now i have removed the viscous as at the very first line on the temp gauge the engine is not running at an efficient temp so now it will just sit under the quarter mark all day every day.
 
its a 2.5 tdi, thanks for all of that info, ime gonna check out the rad in the morning and if need be i will flush the entire engine, check all pipes and renew coolant, hopefully this will do the job, if not i guess its a case of spend spend spend until the problem is solved, cheers
 
if not i guess its a case of spend spend spend spend until the problem is solved, cheers

Clearly an experienced Land Rover owner!!
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regards

Dave
 
I ave little to say on pro and cons of viscy or leccy fans but I do know about some good scrapyard fan choices......

pug 205-nice double unit,small overall size (pusher...???)
pug 306 turbo-BIG double pusher
citroen BX diesel-easy fit 12"ers in tidy square frame

as said before,a lot of the small jap cars have some goodies,often in a metal rather than plastic frame which gives you more bodge fitting options

the tastiest I seen of late was on a little Renault hatch,a metal frame puller that will fit lovely to the inside of a 300tdi intercooler with a lttle adjustment of thr viscy fan cowling

all this is of course dependent on the disco model.....the non air con has an 11-5" high cavity to play with (oo-err matron!) in front of the rad,whereas air conn-ers have all that space behind with the viscy and plastic gorn....

full of inn-you-end-oes,int I?Well,full of something,anyway:D
 
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