air compressor pressure drop

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pic of clip, pic of crimp method or use hose clips if you like old school:)
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hi

finally after a long while have bought a compressor , also handy with the versility of the tools u can get

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/sc50h-50-litre-high-flow-air-compressor-air-kit

Air Displacement: 9.6 CFM
Discharge Pressure: 115 PSI / 8 bar
Air Outlet: 1/4"

have been working out the pressure drop according to the hose length , as i wish to increase the standard hose of 5m that comes with the compressor, mainly so i can tuck it out of the way and save my back not having to move it

will indeed change the most important outlet fitting to 1/2 inch

may i ask what would u consider the permissible amount of pressure drop before it has an adverse effect on the CFM plse

of course zero drop is better , current calc is showing a hose @40 x feet with a 1/2 inch dia hose , pressure drop 0.35 psi

would that effect the Cfm by much plse or is 2-3 psi permissible without noticing

don’t know how much oil i’ve got to buy , assume it will tell me in the instructions when it arrives

would it be worth buying a water filter plse

aplogises once again asking the daft questions and always appreciate the help

many thks in advance

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You are making the calculation on the flow of the compressor, actual the flow in the air line will be the demand of the tool you use and often ts much higher.
As others have said with tools like an impact gun you fill the receiver and use the gun in short bursts until the pressure falls then pump it up again, no single phase compressor can keep up with high consumer tools like impact guns or paint sprays its just a matter of compromise.
The more storage capacity you have the longer the bursts will be,
 
no single phase compressor can keep up with high consumer tools like paint sprays its just a matter of compromise.
My own compressor is about the same size as the one featured & it runs HVLP gravity feed guns fine. I currently have 4 SMART repair size guns - a mix of SATA & Iwata 0.8 & 1.0 setups - and one full size with a 1.4 setup.
Haven't used a suction feed in years so I've no idea whether they'd work.
 
happy days and thks so much guys :D

i should be set up now once the bits turn up

thks again and really is appreciated :):)
 
ah nuts:(

air line fititngs turned up today and they weren’t the euro ones, think there called pcl

may i ask , does anyone have a chart or pics of the different types of quick release fittings plse

established by existing connectors on the compressor are of the euro quick release type

wondering how many different types there are so i don’t make the same mistake again

as on the compressor it has 1/4 outlets and going to fit

1/4 to 1/2 fitting
then make up a short 1/2 hose to go into a water trap , going to secure the water trap on the side of the box

other side of water trap 3/8 and onto 3/8 hose to air tools

thks so much once again
 
The only types I'm aware of is euro, pcl and shnider (wrong spelling! But something like that) .
If you fit 2 pcl females to your compressor that's you sorted isn't it?
 
The only types I'm aware of is euro, pcl and shnider (wrong spelling! But something like that) .
If you fit 2 pcl females to your compressor that's you sorted isn't it?

thks so much, for the help :)

the pcl fittings i got, won’t go into the quick release connectors on the compressor , which means that must be a euro type

took a quick pic

the fittings at the bottom, none of them fit , top ones do fit

just sitting here looking at the fititngs and what i need

just a case of finding out what types there are , am useto fittings from plumbing but not these ones, lol

so need to go

from compressor where i’ve removed the 1/4 quick release fitting

then 1/4 to 1/2 , reducer male iron
1/2 female euro quick release
then euro fitting to go into the above fitting - ribbed for hose

then other end of hose to water trap , fitting ribbed - euro

do appreciate it


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Throw the euros away and fit pcl throughout.
It's less pain all round.
All the cheap compressors come with euro including the one my mate got but he got all euro fittings instead.
But you've already got the pcls unless you can send them back balanced against the cost of two new pcl couplings in place of the two euro ones on your compressor.
 
Just had a quick look on eBay about a fiver each.
NOT 100 series though! They are different again for high flow applications.
 
Throw the euros away and fit pcl throughout.
It's less pain all round.
All the cheap compressors come with euro including the one my mate got but he got all euro fittings instead.
But you've already got the pcls unless you can send them back balanced against the cost of two new pcl couplings in place of the two euro ones on your compressor.

thks, reason i wished to stick with euro was because there not so restrictive as the pcl in looking through them

have spoken to the seller and said he will swap them to euro types for me

just wondered then there all the same , the compressor came with a kit, ie sprayer , tyre gauge etc etc and there all euro fittings
 
thks, reason i wished to stick with euro was because there not so restrictive as the pcl in looking through them

have spoken to the seller and said he will swap them to euro types for me

just wondered then there all the same , the compressor came with a kit, ie sprayer , tyre gauge etc etc and there all euro fittings
That makes sense then if all your tools are euro to.
 
That makes sense then if all your tools are euro to.

just trying to make everything simple and not having to mess around

have found a fitting which i think might work better , can then go straight from the compressor to the hose then onto the water trap

other quick release connector i could leave alone, then that isn’t going through the combined water trap / oiler so no risk of contamination of the air line hose and use for things like tyre inflator or blowing off brakes etc , then not spraying a mist of oil everywhere from the oiler , if that all makes sense

plus this is the combined water trap/ oiler i got

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I'm not super keen on fitting the hose directly to the compressor Gary, I would stick a 1/2" ballvalve on the compressor and the barbed hose tail to that. You can then isolate everything downstream quickly if a hose bursts for instance.
 
I'm not super keen on fitting the hose directly to the compressor Gary, I would stick a 1/2" ballvalve on the compressor and the barbed hose tail to that. You can then isolate everything downstream quickly if a hose bursts for instance.

ah, that makes a lot of sense and indeed a very good point

see, that’s where experience comes into it :):)

plus , am thinking , only one of the outlets are regulated , so think i can use the un regulated side into the water trap that has a regulator , then use the compressor regulator for the other side
 
I'm not super keen on fitting the hose directly to the compressor Gary, I would stick a 1/2" ballvalve on the compressor and the barbed hose tail to that. You can then isolate everything downstream quickly if a hose bursts for instance.
Seconded.
I'd consider fitting a ball valve to each of the connectors on the compressor between the connector & the compressor itself so you can isolate either or both sides
 
Seconded.
I'd consider fitting a ball valve to each of the connectors on the compressor between the connector & the compressor itself so you can isolate either or both sides

agreed and hands up i didn’t think of that until @Flossie kindly advised me

have ordered 2 x full bore lever valves and correctly rated for air and 2 x stainless steel male iron 1/4 - 1/2

also thks again and great getting knowledge like this and appreciated
 
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