Freelander 1 Additional Key and Fob

GrumpyGel said:

That is complete codswallop @Hippo

This fella has done nothing wrong and brought the ability to people to maintain their vehicles.

If people like LR & Hawkeye had charged a reasonable price for their product then there would be no need for devices such as this and iCarsoft.

I do not single out LR as 'poxy' - the poxyness was endemic in the motor industry, they were all putting electronics into their vehicles that created a toxic maintenance environment for their customers. Legislation was needed to stop them - as it is when ever corporations take unfair advantage of their customers.

Anyway, should we always use 'genuine' parts when maintaining our cars? Should we never use OEM or aftermarket - even when JLR arbitrarily decide they can't be arsed to sell them any more? Surely going by your position they should be removed from sale.

I should add as well, that the question of whether remotes/transponders can be coded has been asked many times on this forum over the years with nobody being able to answer it. The cars are now 20 years old and finally someone has been able to answered it.

IBM were happy for people to build add-ons to their computers - bull bars and roof racks if you like - it meant they could sell more PCs - however, they took people to court to stop them copying their PCs. It was only after people reverse engineered the code for the BIOS that IBM compatible PCs could be made and competition created.

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pscan.eu said:

Yes I did. It's the difference between legal reverse engineering and copyright infringement.

Your actual earlier words were "making out you created something as opposed to listening (eves dropping) into another product"
I didn't make out that I created something. I actually did create something, it has taken thousands and thousands of hours finding cars, buying ECUs on ebay, figuring out how the protocols work and writing (creating) my own code to implement that same protocol.
It isn't "opposed to listening (eves dropping)" because actually, that is exactly what I did do. The words "opposed to" are important in what you said.

You might not like what I do, but it is legal and in my opinion not immoral. However morals are a matter of opinion and so as you say we have to agree to disagree.

Yes 100%. If you want to put the effort in then I cannot stop you.

Anyway I don't what to force the moderators to do anything to either you or me; I'm happy to leave it there.

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Hippo said:

I have no idea why you have chosen to get involved with eggsamples which dont relate to the original point raised. Its nothing to do with you. He can stand on his own feet. What you have just posted is opinion, not fact, which is why its all wrong. Its not worth replying to.

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