87 Dodge W150 Spicer 44 rebuild

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AlaskanFishGuide

Guest

• Mar 18, 2005

• #1

HELP!!! I am trying to rebuild my spicer 44-8FD front axle on my 87
Dodge W150. I am comfortable around tools and don't mind getting
dirty... however I cannot seem to get the ring and pinion free from the
housing. I have removed the bearing caps, pried, pulled, smashed, etc
and can't seem to get the carriers to budge. Any ideas?

 

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Mike Romain

Guest

• Mar 18, 2005

• #2

You don't mention that you removed the axles yet....?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

AlaskanFishGuide wrote:
>
> HELP!!! I am trying to rebuild my spicer 44-8FD front axle on my 87
> Dodge W150. I am comfortable around tools and don't mind getting
> dirty... however I cannot seem to get the ring and pinion free from the
> housing. I have removed the bearing caps, pried, pulled, smashed, etc
> and can't seem to get the carriers to budge. Any ideas?

 

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AlaskanFishGuide

Guest

• Mar 18, 2005

• #3

Thanks for the reply. Sorry I didn't mention it, but I did indeed
remove the front axles (all three).

 

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Mike Romain

Guest

• Mar 18, 2005

• #4

Well, my Dana 30 was sort of stuck in there when I changed the seals and
I just gave it a pop pry with a bar and out it came. The bearings were
in there snug and the gear oil was making them suction stick.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

AlaskanFishGuide wrote:
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> Thanks for the reply. Sorry I didn't mention it, but I did indeed
> remove the front axles (all three).

 

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AlaskanFishGuide

Guest

• Mar 18, 2005

• #5

Where did you pry? Behind the carriers or on the inside of the ring
gear? Did one side come out easier than the other?

 

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Mike Romain

Guest

• Mar 19, 2005

• #6

I am right handed mostly so I pried on the right side bearing with a
small bar. Once the suction let lose on the one side, the other side
fell out fast. Sort of pop and grab quick before it beaned me.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

AlaskanFishGuide wrote:
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> Where did you pry? Behind the carriers or on the inside of the ring
> gear? Did one side come out easier than the other?

 

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AlaskanFishGuide

Guest

• Mar 19, 2005

• #7

Thanks for the information. I'll keep trying.

 

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Peter D. Hipson

Guest

• Mar 19, 2005

• #8

Are you using a case spreader?

(what's that, he says...)

On 19 Mar 2005 08:21:28 -0800, "AlaskanFishGuide"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Thanks for the information. I'll keep trying.

 

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AlaskanFishGuide

Guest

• Mar 20, 2005

• #9

Peter,

"What's that" I do say... I don't own one and am not using one... is
that the secret?

 

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Peter D. Hipson

Guest

• Mar 20, 2005

• #10

A case spreader is a tool that pushes the case apart (not by much, a
few thousandths of a inch...) to allow the carrier to be removed. They
are used on AMC 20's, 44's and some other diffs. Looks like a box or
square with threaded ends with pins that go into the case on eiather
side. You then open it up and lift out the carrier (the center of the
box or square of the spreader is large enough to get the carrier
through.

On 19 Mar 2005 22:28:41 -0800, "AlaskanFishGuide"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Peter,
>
>"What's that" I do say... I don't own one and am not using one... is
>that the secret?

 

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AlaskanFishGuide

Guest

• Mar 20, 2005

• #11

Thanks Peter,

I'll look into that.

 

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Mike Romain

Guest

• Mar 22, 2005

• #12

They didn't use one of those on my 44 when I recently had new bearings
put in. The carrier popped loose just fine and the bearings got
changed. The carrier didn't need to be removed from the case though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"Peter D. Hipson" wrote:
>
> Are you using a case spreader?
>
> (what's that, he says...)
>
> On 19 Mar 2005 08:21:28 -0800, "AlaskanFishGuide"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the information. I'll keep trying.

 

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Mark R via CarKB.com

Guest

• Apr 2, 2005

• #13

hey there..how did you finally make out with the differential..did you have
to use a spreader or did it pop out..I just have to replace the right side
oil seal , and was curious.

Thx Mark

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Mike Romain

Guest

• Apr 2, 2005

• #14

Why are you folks removing the guts?

You can rebuild the whole works with all new seals and bearings and the
guts can stay inside the pumpkin. I recently had the bearings,
including pinion bearings and seals in my 44 done and watched him.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"Mark R via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> hey there..how did you finally make out with the differential..did you have
> to use a spreader or did it pop out..I just have to replace the right side
> oil seal , and was curious.
>
> Thx Mark
>
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