4x4 in snow

When will 4x4 drivers realise that having a 4x4 does NOT increase their
braking performance in snow!!!

It's snowing over the top of ice in Cumbernauld at the moment.

One 4x4 was following me at a distance of about 10' he overtook me and ran
in the back of a taxi!

Two others looked like they had gone straight on at roundabouts.

Btw - I've been driving 4x4 for 20 years and have done winter driving
courses in Norway.

Clive

much the same as the Porsche, Audi TT, Jaguar and all other sports cars
think they can handle them at 120mph on dry country roads. Ripping by us 4x4
'ers noses and fingers in the air

It was nice on Thursday to overtake some off those boys gingerly trying to
handle all that horse power in the snow and ice.

dj
Grand Vitara Diesel

"Clive" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> When will 4x4 drivers realise that having a 4x4 does NOT increase their
> braking performance in snow!!!
>
> It's snowing over the top of ice in Cumbernauld at the moment.
>
> One 4x4 was following me at a distance of about 10' he overtook me and ran
> in the back of a taxi!
>
> Two others looked like they had gone straight on at roundabouts.
>
> Btw - I've been driving 4x4 for 20 years and have done winter driving
> courses in Norway.
>
> Clive
>
>

In message <[email protected]>, Clive
<[email protected]> writes
>When will 4x4 drivers realise that having a 4x4 does NOT increase their
>braking performance in snow!!!
>
>It's snowing over the top of ice in Cumbernauld at the moment.
>
>One 4x4 was following me at a distance of about 10' he overtook me and ran
>in the back of a taxi!
>
>Two others looked like they had gone straight on at roundabouts.
>
>Btw - I've been driving 4x4 for 20 years and have done winter driving
>courses in Norway.
>
>Clive
>
>

Got mud tyres on my Jimny, they do make a difference in the snow when
accelerating or braking, but not a lot. I still take it very easy. They
offer no extra protection from sliding sideways though, as I found out
'testing' my grip on a deserted Asda car park the other night. Good fun
though!

Al
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Al

I have a 90 defender TDI with 235/70/16 mud tyres on it, during this bad
weather i decided to take it out for once (must get around to selling it!)
and was really surprised as to how well it done!!!

There was a big hill (prob 1/2 mile long) near me which was covered in thick
ice! cars where sliding down and crashing into the embankment
either side so i wondered how i would get on trying to go up.......

i stopped at the bottom and engeged low range and tried to pull away......
WHEEL SPIN! not going no where! Then i went for the diff lock whilst
trying to move..... CLONK and off we went!!!! just pulled away no prob
and even changing gear as we went!!! - WOW! LR RULES!!!!

just as we had got about 150yds up the hill and around the first corner
there was a group of lads who had got their renault 5 stuck up against the
bank so i stopped (prob on the steepest part of the hill!) and my mate
jumped out to chuck a rope around them to try and pull them out and himself
found out how slippery is was on thick ice all the way up as he fell over
quite a few times!

Anyway with them in reverse and me driving forward i ended up towing them
ALL the way up the hill with NO problems! I was SO amazed! - so where
they judging by their comments when we got to the top lol

Only down side was that it took me about 5 mins to get up the big hill in
2nd gear low range - never knew it was that long & it done me a favour by
showing me that the electric cooling fan was not really up to the job when
then temperature was approaching 105C! where there was insufficient air
through the rad at that speed so i have got a MASSIVE fan to go on it now
out of a vauxhall omega 3.0 to put on there when i get a minute.

WHAT A MOTOR!!!

MC - Essex.




"Al" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In message <[email protected]>, Clive
> <[email protected]> writes
> >When will 4x4 drivers realise that having a 4x4 does NOT increase their
> >braking performance in snow!!!
> >
> >It's snowing over the top of ice in Cumbernauld at the moment.
> >
> >One 4x4 was following me at a distance of about 10' he overtook me and
ran
> >in the back of a taxi!
> >
> >Two others looked like they had gone straight on at roundabouts.
> >
> >Btw - I've been driving 4x4 for 20 years and have done winter driving
> >courses in Norway.
> >
> >Clive
> >
> >
>
> Got mud tyres on my Jimny, they do make a difference in the snow when
> accelerating or braking, but not a lot. I still take it very easy. They
> offer no extra protection from sliding sideways though, as I found out
> 'testing' my grip on a deserted Asda car park the other night. Good fun
> though!
>
> Al
> --
>
> --
> Al

Mark C. <[email protected]> wrote:

> i stopped at the bottom and engeged low range and tried to pull away......
> WHEEL SPIN! not going no where! Then i went for the diff lock whilst
> trying to move..... CLONK and off we went!!!! just pulled away no prob
> and even changing gear as we went!!! - WOW! LR RULES!!!!

Errm, you shouldn't be using low ratio in ice and snow. Use as high a
gear as possible to reduce torque at the wheels. On the Exploder I used
the autobox in "2" which locks the box into 3rd gear (can't change up or
down) and had no problems at all. I started off with the drive selector
set to "Auto" but decided after a few miles that this was uncomfortable
because when a wheel did slip it look a noticeable delay before drive
was recovered. Setting to high ratio permanent 4x4 stopped the odd
clunk/slip and made travelling perfectly comfortable.

I did over 100 mile son Wednesday night and the major problem I had was
other drivers blocking the road and queues of ninnies who refused to
allow a vehicle that could tackle the conditions to pass. (i.e. they
were unable to go anywhere and rather than pull over, they simply
blocked the road).

I ended up at one point driving on single carriageway unclassified roads
to bypass traffic jams in Banbury, Moreton in the Marsh, Stow in Wold,
Broadway and Evesham. On most of these the snow was deeper than the main
carriageways and also the side roads simply hadn't been gritted. Despite
this the Exploder coped perfectly on General ATs, which are really
ordinary road tyres. I hadn't fancied putting on a set of MTs on the
vague chance that it may snow, when I was planning to do a round trip of
over 400 miles.

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