4x4 chassis suitable for coachmaking?

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I seek a European, Japanese, or Korean 4x4 chassis to give to a
coachbuilding firm in Malaysia to convert into a double-decked mobile
lab/office.

Ability to go faster than 60-70 kilometers/hour is not needed

Suggestions?

 
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>I seek a European, Japanese, or Korean 4x4 chassis to give to a
> coachbuilding firm in Malaysia to convert into a double-decked mobile
> lab/office.
>
> Ability to go faster than 60-70 kilometers/hour is not needed
>
> Suggestions?
>

Uni-Mog!



 
[email protected] wrote:
> I seek a European, Japanese, or Korean 4x4 chassis to give to a
> coachbuilding firm in Malaysia to convert into a double-decked mobile
> lab/office.
>
> Ability to go faster than 60-70 kilometers/hour is not needed
>
> Suggestions?
>
My first cjoice would be a Uni-Mog. Theya re a little expensive. But rock
solid reliable.

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RAM³ wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I seek a European, Japanese, or Korean 4x4 chassis to give to a
>>coachbuilding firm in Malaysia to convert into a double-decked mobile
>>lab/office.
>>
>>Ability to go faster than 60-70 kilometers/hour is not needed
>>
>>Suggestions?
>>
>
>
> Uni-Mog!
>

International Harvester Scout II would be a viable candidate, so long as
a) the fact that it's 30 years old doesn't bother you and b) ride
quality is not important. IH Travelall would be good if you want a
larger vehicle.

nate


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Nate Nagel wrote:

> >>I seek a European, Japanese, or Korean 4x4 chassis to give to a
>
> International Harvester Scout II would be a viable candidate, so long as

Don't cut up a Scout for this project! What a shocking waste.

Also, since when has America been part of Europe, Japan or Korea?

 

[email protected] schrieb:


> I seek a European, Japanese, or Korean 4x4 chassis to give to a
> coachbuilding firm in Malaysia to convert into a double-decked mobile
> lab/office.

Do you mean true doubledeck?

In that case, you can't use a truck chassis, and I would ask MAN, wether
they are able to deliver one of their more rugged bus chassis with their
Hydrodrive [tm].
This is an hydrostatic front wheel drive, lighter and more compact than
standard 4x4, but not intended for permanent usage - just for the steep
or slippery parts of an operation.

Please note that this won't be a high mobility solution, but you didn't
give any information about the required mobility.
High mobility = "can follow in the spur of a battletank, whereever a
battletank is able to go" = Unimog, MAN Kat1 mil, Tatra, things like
that.

But since you posted this to urban-transit, I assume that you are talking
about steep slippery roads.


Hans-Joachim
 
[email protected] wrote:
> Nate Nagel wrote:
>
>
>>>>I seek a European, Japanese, or Korean 4x4 chassis to give to a
>>
>>International Harvester Scout II would be a viable candidate, so long as
>
>
> Don't cut up a Scout for this project! What a shocking waste.

The body is probably already rusted to s**t, so...

>
> Also, since when has America been part of Europe, Japan or Korea?
>

It hasn't; I was neglecting that qualification as the Scout is the best
non-Unimog 4WD that I can think of off the top of my head, save maybe
for a Hummer (a real one, mind you, not that H2 or H3 bullcrap.)

Actually, a H1 might make a real good base for such a project, come to
think of it.

nate

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Nate Nagel wrote:

> > Don't cut up a Scout for this project! What a shocking waste.
>
> The body is probably already rusted to s**t, so...

.... so the chassis parts are better donated to keep another Scout in
good order. The numbers of these classic trucks are constantly
dwindling, why accelerate its disappearance?

Of course I am a bit biased <http://www.larwe.com/scout/>.

> > Also, since when has America been part of Europe, Japan or Korea?
> >
>
> It hasn't;

In fact it was at one point part of Europe, and the Japanese tried to
make it part of Japan, which leaves Korea as the odd man out.

> Actually, a H1 might make a real good base for such a project, come to
> think of it.

There's something about the idea of "4x4 for bad conditions" combined
with "double decker" that does not sit well with me. I don't want a
high CoG in a vehicle that's going to be doing extreme things. If he
has to make it two decks, I'd want to see the wheelbase widened
concomitantly. The H1 is probably not a terrible choice but it's still
relatively tiny.

 
Nate Nagel <[email protected]> writes:


>Actually, a H1 might make a real good base for such a project, come to
>think of it.

NBC bought and refitted a M88 tank retriever; maybe that's
a better way to start....


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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:55:37 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Nate Nagel <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
>>Actually, a H1 might make a real good base for such a project, come to
>>think of it.
>
>NBC bought and refitted a M88 tank retriever; maybe that's
>a better way to start....


you would be the king of the road with a 88, of course whatever you
couldn't pass you could just run over or run though it.

not the fastest tacked vehicle, but I would guess would of the most
powerful for what its designed to do.
-----------
Elbert
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:37:53 -0600, Elbert <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:55:37 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Nate Nagel <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>
>>>Actually, a H1 might make a real good base for such a project, come to
>>>think of it.
>>
>>NBC bought and refitted a M88 tank retriever; maybe that's
>>a better way to start....
>
>
>you would be the king of the road with a 88, of course whatever you
>couldn't pass you could just run over or run though it.
>
>not the fastest tacked vehicle, but I would guess would of the most
>powerful for what its designed to do.
>-----------
>Elbert
>[email protected]


meant to say tracked
-----------
Elbert
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How large of a chassis are you looking for? If you are looking for
something in the Class 8 truck range, almost every European major truck
manufacturer offers a 4x4 version. And then you have Terex-Tatra, most
of which are all wheel drive, and which can be either US, Czech, or
Indian depending in where it is sourced from. There seem to be plenty
of Tatra parts coming out of China, so that may be a way for you to go
if you are in Malaysia.

 
M88? yeah and get the older model with the supercharged air-cooled
gasser engine.....take the top deck off, rev it up and watch the
fireball climb into the sky when you lift off the throttle......man,
that takes me back a decade or three, blue flames under full throttle
and huge fireballs climbing into the sky as you lift........


On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:38:22 -0600, Elbert <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:37:53 -0600, Elbert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:55:37 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Nate Nagel <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Actually, a H1 might make a real good base for such a project, come to
>>>>think of it.
>>>
>>>NBC bought and refitted a M88 tank retriever; maybe that's
>>>a better way to start....
>>
>>
>>you would be the king of the road with a 88, of course whatever you
>>couldn't pass you could just run over or run though it.
>>
>>not the fastest tacked vehicle, but I would guess would of the most
>>powerful for what its designed to do.
>>-----------
>>Elbert
>>[email protected]
>
>
>meant to say tracked
>-----------
>Elbert
>[email protected]

 

Nate Nagel schrieb:


> It hasn't; I was neglecting that qualification as the Scout is the best
> non-Unimog 4WD that I can think of off the top of my head,

That would be the Tatra 817.
http://www.tatraportal.sk/data/clanky/t817/tr2005_01-1.jpg
http://www.tatraportal.sk/data/clanky/t817/tr2005_01-2.jpg

Designed to fit into a C130 without rebuilding, for NATO rapid deployment
forces.
Tatra once built the trucks for the other side of the Fulda Gap. ;-)
The 817 delivers 7200 kg payload on 6800 kg of truck, which is a damn
good value for cat1 mil mobility.

It lacks the universal machinery drive capability of the Unimog, though,
and sits one weight class higher.

But it delivers ride comfort fitting to this side of 2000. If you
seriously consider a "hard men only" truck, the Kamaz Master will be your
choice:
http://www.vesti.ru/p/b_29342.jpg
http://www.capdesert.net/Magazine/Articles/Camion/Photos camions/99-kamaz.jpg


Hans-Joachim

 
"Hans-Joachim Zierke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Nate Nagel schrieb:
>
>
>> It hasn't; I was neglecting that qualification as the Scout is the best
>> non-Unimog 4WD that I can think of off the top of my head,
>
> That would be the Tatra 817.
> http://www.tatraportal.sk/data/clanky/t817/tr2005_01-1.jpg
> http://www.tatraportal.sk/data/clanky/t817/tr2005_01-2.jpg
>
> Designed to fit into a C130 without rebuilding, for NATO rapid deployment
> forces.
> Tatra once built the trucks for the other side of the Fulda Gap. ;-)
> The 817 delivers 7200 kg payload on 6800 kg of truck, which is a damn
> good value for cat1 mil mobility.
>
> It lacks the universal machinery drive capability of the Unimog, though,
> and sits one weight class higher.
>
> But it delivers ride comfort fitting to this side of 2000. If you
> seriously consider a "hard men only" truck, the Kamaz Master will be your
> choice:
> http://www.vesti.ru/p/b_29342.jpg
> http://www.capdesert.net/Magazine/Articles/Camion/Photos camions/99-kamaz.jpg
>
>
> Hans-Joachim
>

That Tatra is one *very* serious vehicle!



 
<< That Tatra is one *very* serious vehicle! >>

Tatra is now owned by Terex, and they have a fairly small order pending
for the US military. They were one of two finalists for a next
generation truck for the USMC that would replace the articulated
Oshkosh's that the USMC now has. My guess is that this is the cab that
they are pushing, because the standard Tatra 815/816 cab is much
roomier, right up to including 4 door versions.

Interesting vehicles.

 

PirateJohn schrieb:


> My guess is that this is the cab that
> they are pushing, because

....it fits into a C-130, which is an argument for the military. With
the tiny cab, they also sell armour kits: Exchange doors and windscreens,
fit some plating all around. Makes sense to buy only a small number of
kits for a big number of trucks.
(But those, who don't plan Iraq tourism, might not be too interested in
that option.)

> the standard Tatra 815/816 cab is much
> roomier, right up to including 4 door versions.

Yep. Here an USA firefighter version:
http://www.firetatra.unas.cz/cisterny/ATCCASusa.jpg

In Europe, they sell the wildfire version with 4 axles normally, but
due to the federal bridge formula, this does not make much sense in the
USA.


Ob-transit: Almost any tram rescue pulling vehicle in Eastern Europe is
a Tatra.


Hans-Joachim
 
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