4H problem of Sportage

Wallace · Jul 21, 2003

I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.

Roger Brown · Jul 21, 2003

Wallace wrote:
>
> I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
> difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
> normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.

Sounds normal for a part time 4WD system, which is what I assume you have. If so this is normal driveline binding caused by the
inability of the front and rear axles to rotate at different speeds needed for turning on high traction surfaces. While normal,
its not something you really want to do, as the binding greatly increases the stresses on components. To see what is going on,
drive through some standing water then make a tight u-turn and get out and look at the tire tracks. Note how the front tires
follow a wider arc than the rear tires. That wider arc requires more tire (and axle) rotations and without a center
differential like a full time 4WD system, the whole drivetrain is bound up.

--
Roger

Wallace · Jul 22, 2003

Thanks Roger! I will try this. Just chatting, there is no enough and
formal area to practice 4wd driving in HK, how about your country?
Roger Brown wrote:

>Wallace wrote:
>
>
>>I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
>>difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
>>normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.
>>
>>
>
>Sounds normal for a part time 4WD system, which is what I assume you have. If so this is normal driveline binding caused by the
>inability of the front and rear axles to rotate at different speeds needed for turning on high traction surfaces. While normal,
>its not something you really want to do, as the binding greatly increases the stresses on components. To see what is going on,
>drive through some standing water then make a tight u-turn and get out and look at the tire tracks. Note how the front tires
>follow a wider arc than the rear tires. That wider arc requires more tire (and axle) rotations and without a center
>differential like a full time 4WD system, the whole drivetrain is bound up.
>
>
>

--
Wallace CHAN
Photographer
Publishing Technology Center
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Tel: 2358-6804
Fax: 2358-1224
Home Page: http://www.ust.hk/ptc

Wallace Chan · Jul 22, 2003

Will it have any problem (like engine or clutch over head, tires surface
will damage..etc) could I do it on-road? or should I avoid to tight
steering in 4wd mode?

Wallace

Roger Brown wrote:

>Wallace wrote:
>
>
>>I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
>>difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
>>normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.
>>
>>
>
>Sounds normal for a part time 4WD system, which is what I assume you have. If so this is normal driveline binding caused by the
>inability of the front and rear axles to rotate at different speeds needed for turning on high traction surfaces. While normal,
>its not something you really want to do, as the binding greatly increases the stresses on components. To see what is going on,
>drive through some standing water then make a tight u-turn and get out and look at the tire tracks. Note how the front tires
>follow a wider arc than the rear tires. That wider arc requires more tire (and axle) rotations and without a center
>differential like a full time 4WD system, the whole drivetrain is bound up.
>
>
>

--
Wallace CHAN
Photographer
Publishing Technology Center
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Tel: 2358-6804
Fax: 2358-1224
Home Page: http://www.ust.hk/ptc

Roger Brown · Jul 22, 2003

> Wallace Chan wrote:
>
> Will it have any problem (like engine or clutch over head, tires surface will damage..etc) could I do it on-road? or should I
> avoid to tight steering in 4wd mode?

Usually the tires will slip once enough force it built up, but its not a good idea to use part time 4WD on pavement, dry or
wet. Find a dirt or gravel road, at least, to check it out on. One problem you can run into is if everything gets very bound
up, you may not be able to shift back to 2WD mode and it can sometimes take some manuevering to loosen things up, either backing
up or turning in the opposite direction, etc.

> I will try this. Just chatting, there is no enough and formal area to practice 4wd driving in HK, how about your
> country?

Lots of 4Wheeling opportunities where I live:
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/4x4_trips.shtml

--
Roger

Trentus · Jul 22, 2003

"Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
> difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
> normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.

You really don't want to drive in 4H unless you're on a loose surface such
as dirt.
It's definitely not good for a 4 wheel drive without a centre diff, to drive
on high grip surfaces in 4 wheel drive high or low.

Trentus

Burnie M · Jul 23, 2003

Join a club and they will teach you about 4WDing as well as organise
regular trips;
http://www.offroaders.com.hk/

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:01:26 +0800, Wallace <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
>difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
>normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.

Wallace · Jul 23, 2003

Thanks all guy. Actually, I do not know Sportage is a good car for
offroad although the car construction is ready for the offroader. Many
country, even in HK, they will drive SUZUKI,JIMNY, PRADO, LAND CURISER
80 for offroad rather than Sportage. Do I need modify my car before to
go offroad?
Many Thanks
Wallace

Burnie M wrote:

>Join a club and they will teach you about 4WDing as well as organise
>regular trips;
> http://www.offroaders.com.hk/
>
>
>
>On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:01:26 +0800, Wallace <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
>>difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
>>normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.
>>
>>
>
>
>

--
Wallace CHAN
Photographer
Publishing Technology Center
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Tel: 2358-6804
Fax: 2358-1224
Home Page: http://www.ust.hk/ptc

Burnie M · Jul 24, 2003

Many people put on off road tyres and a suspension lift but you do not
need to do this straight away.

First you need to learn to drive your car off road. Techniques are
very different to onroad use. You will learn about clearance, approach
and departure angles, different surfaces etc.
The best place to learn is in a club.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:06:42 +0800, Wallace <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Thanks all guy. Actually, I do not know Sportage is a good car for
>offroad although the car construction is ready for the offroader. Many
>country, even in HK, they will drive SUZUKI,JIMNY, PRADO, LAND CURISER
>80 for offroad rather than Sportage. Do I need modify my car before to
>go offroad?
>Many Thanks
>Wallace
>
>Burnie M wrote:
>
>>Join a club and they will teach you about 4WDing as well as organise
>>regular trips;
>> http://www.offroaders.com.hk/
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:01:26 +0800, Wallace <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
>>>difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
>>>normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

Wallace · Jul 24, 2003

Agree, because these accessories are very expensive in HK.

Many thanks
Wallace

Burnie M wrote:

>Many people put on off road tyres and a suspension lift but you do not
>need to do this straight away.
>
>First you need to learn to drive your car off road. Techniques are
>very different to onroad use. You will learn about clearance, approach
>and departure angles, different surfaces etc.
>The best place to learn is in a club.
>
>
>On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:06:42 +0800, Wallace <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks all guy. Actually, I do not know Sportage is a good car for
>>offroad although the car construction is ready for the offroader. Many
>>country, even in HK, they will drive SUZUKI,JIMNY, PRADO, LAND CURISER
>>80 for offroad rather than Sportage. Do I need modify my car before to
>>go offroad?
>>Many Thanks
>>Wallace
>>
>>Burnie M wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Join a club and they will teach you about 4WDing as well as organise
>>>regular trips;
>>> http://www.offroaders.com.hk/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:01:26 +0800, Wallace <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have 2000 sportage, while i driving in 4H mode, my car are very
>>>>difficult to move if I steering my tyre to the end of both side, is it
>>>>normal? Since i'm new in 4x4, thanks for your kind assistance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

--
Wallace CHAN
Photographer
Publishing Technology Center
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Tel: 2358-6804
Fax: 2358-1224
Home Page: http://www.ust.hk/ptc

Roger Brown · Jul 24, 2003

Wallace wrote:
>
> Thanks all guy. Actually, I do not know Sportage is a good car for offroad although the car construction is ready for the
> offroader. Many country, even in HK, they will drive SUZUKI,JIMNY, PRADO, LAND CURISER 80 for offroad rather than Sportage. Do
> I need modify my car before to go offroad?

A few web resources for the Kia Sportage:
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?Cat=&C=25
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/extreme4x4sportages/

A body lift is one rather inexpensive upgrade allowing for a larger tire to be used:
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/ForSale/Docs/KiaBodyLift.html

--
Roger

4H problem of Sportage

Wallace

Guest

Roger Brown

Guest

Wallace

Guest

Wallace Chan

Guest

Roger Brown

Guest

Trentus

Guest

Burnie M

Guest

Wallace

Guest

Burnie M

Guest

Wallace

Guest

Roger Brown

Guest

Similar threads