2014 freelander 2 2.2 auto gearbox advice

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nick the gin

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hi ive got a 2014 last gen freelander 2 2.2 automatic 6 speed
now the gearbox is bust ive found an identical one i know there is an external ecu that i will just swap over
but ive been told there may be an internal ecu that needs to be programed to the car ?
does anyone know if this is true ???
tia
nick
 
I don't believe there's an internal TCM, it would be too hot in a gearbox, for it to have a long life.
You'll need to reset the adaptive values when the replacement gearbox is installed, as the TCM will have learnt the faulty gearbox parameters.
 
Nodge68 said:
I don't believe there's an internal TCM, it would be too hot in a gearbox, for it to have a long life.
You'll need to reset the adaptive values when the replacement gearbox is installed, as the TCM will have learnt the faulty gearbox parameters.
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I have known other later gearboxes autos that do have an ecu in the gearbox mercs do and i spoke to land-rover they said it has and would need programing but not sure if they are telling the truth and the original box is OK drive wise just rattles and smells of burning oil ??
 
I think the ecu is internal to the gearbox.
Could just swap Ecu from your gear box if they are coded to the car.
That's if you have the aisin awf21
 
J_D said:
I think the ecu is internal to the gearbox.
Could just swap Ecu from your gear box if they are coded to the car.
That's if you have the aisin awf21
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hi thanks everyone for your replys but the gearbox has no ecu inside it only has the external ecu
of which i have to erase the adaptaions to re learn the ecu
thanks again
 
The FL2 auto gearbox computer sits on top of the gearbox. It's a black box with a wiring harness going to it.

You can reset the adptations yourself:

If yer FL2 uses a key fob in the dash, then put it in. If it's the later remote fob only type, make sure it's inside the car.
Turn on the ignition electrics only (don't start the engine) using the start/stop button.
Press the accellerator pedel fully to the floor and hold there for 30 seconds.
Let go of the accellerator pedal.
Switch oft the electrics using the start/stop button - if yours uses a key fob in the dash, leave it in.
Wait 30 seconds.
Start the car as you normally would.

The gear changes may feel slightly pronounced after the above reset mothod. It will become smooth (like it shold be) as you continue to drive it, as the gearbox learns. There's no need to thrash it. Just drive it as normal.
 
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Hippo said:
The FL2 auto gearbox computer sits on top of the gearbox. It's a black box with a wiring harness going to it.

You can reset the adptations yourself:

If yer FL2 uses a key fob in the dash, then put it in.
Turn on the ignition electrics only (don't start the engine) using the start/stop button.
Press the accellerator pedel fully to the floor and hold there for 30 seconds.
Let go of the accellerator pedal.
Switch oft the electrics using the start/stop button - if yours uses a key fob in the dash, leave it in.
Wait 30 seconds.
Start the car as you normally would.

The gear changes may feel slightly pronounced after the above reset mothod. It will become smooth (like it shold be) as you continue to drive it, as the gearbox learns. There's no need to thrash it. Just drive it as normal.
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Both your options are for key in the dash mine is keyless entry ie no key in dash
Nick
 
nick the gin said:
Both your options are for key in the dash mine is keyless entry ie no key in dash
Nick
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Yours is the same as mine. Make sure the fob is in the car when you do the above. Same method, but you won't be putting a fob into the dash.
 
nick the gin said:
Both your options are for key in the dash mine is keyless entry ie no key in dash
Nick
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By the way... you don't have keyless entry. Luckily it was never an option on the FL2. You have a remote fob. Keyless is when you take the remote close to the car and it auto unlocks.
 
Chaps any luck with the changes. I was told by the mechanic that the FL2 has a known problems with gearbox, lazy 1st gear changes when it gets very hot. They reckon that I will need to change the valve body, the car has only done 76,000Kms and it has never gone off-road
 
X-Man said:
Chaps any luck with the changes. I was told by the mechanic that the FL2 has a known problems with gearbox, lazy 1st gear changes when it gets very hot. They reckon that I will need to change the valve body, the car has only done 76,000Kms and it has never gone off-road
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Early on there was an issue with them pulling away in second instead of first, when stationary. That was corrected with a firnware update. Other than that they've been quite reliable.
 
X-Man said:
Chaps any luck with the changes. I was told by the mechanic that the FL2 has a known problems with gearbox, lazy 1st gear changes when it gets very hot. They reckon that I will need to change the valve body, the car has only done 76,000Kms and it has never gone off-road
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As long as it's had all the software updates, then the gearbox is pretty reliable.
For issues with changing gears, a fluid change is always the first thing to do.
The fluid should be changed at 70k or 5 years according to the gearbox manufacturer, unfortunately LR seems to ignore this advice completely.
 
Faults start to creap in around 60k miles on the FL2 auto's. To avoid that we've been doing a partual auto oil change at 50k miles. This has gone on for about 10 years on freel2. It's a way seasoned FL2 owners have reduced the chance of possible trouble. If yer do a lot of towing or lot of oft road driving then partual change earlier at 40k mile is a good idea.
 
Thank you, I have contacted a Landy place here and they had mentioned that it would not be a good idea to perform software upgrades, if you have existing issues with the gearbox. Apparently, FL2 have adaptive learning. So if there is an issue/error prevalent on the gearbox, updating the firmware will only make it worse. They recommended that I do a full gearbox oil flush. It seems to fix the problem, so I will give this a go and let you all know of the results.
 
Adaptations can be reset. Method above. Gear change is more noticeable than normal after its done until it learns new adaptation settings again. It will then become smooth, assuming everything is ok.
 
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