2000 TD5 in a 2003 Discovery

Will a 2000 TD5 engine fit and work in a 2003 Discovery?

I appreciate that there may be some pipe differences, but will it connect and work (albeit with some mods perhaps)?

Mick . . .

I don't see why not, "albeit with some mods perhaps"

Super Dragpack said:

Will a 2000 TD5 engine fit and work in a 2003 Discovery?

I appreciate that there may be some pipe differences, but will it connect and work (albeit with some mods perhaps)?

Mick . . .

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I don't see why not. A 2000 model may have a different fuel cooler and won't have an egr cooler. To meet the emmisionsof the later engine you may need to switch all the plumbing over aswell as the coolers.

Cheers guys, I will get the 2000 engine and let you know how it all goes. I plan on switching over all my bits and bobs then and it should in effect be a 2003 spec motor once finsihed again.

the only problem i can see is the injectors need programing to the ecu but the pre 2003 injectors cannot be programed to the later ecu but you could swop the injectors over but rember to keep them in order but i am not 100% new type injectors will fit in the old type head

PROGRESS:

The engine is in and although I have not yet switched the injectors it is running perfectly.

What benefit (or issues) would I have replacing the injectors in this 2000 engine with the ones that were orginally in my 2003 disco (and therefore matched to the ECU)?

I can't see there being too much difference as there is only two wires going to each?

Any ideas?

Except a little oil leak from the bottom of the dipstick tube, the job is done!!!!!

Super Dragpack said:

PROGRESS:

The engine is in and although I have not yet switched the injectors it is running perfectly.

What benefit (or issues) would I have replacing the injectors in this 2000 engine with the ones that were orginally in my 2003 disco (and therefore matched to the ECU)?

I can't see there being too much difference as there is only two wires going to each?

Any ideas?

Except a little oil leak from the bottom of the dipstick tube, the job is done!!!!!

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By the sound of it the injectors are only programmed with the position that they are in the engine rather than coded to each vehicle. I would say to mark the injectors 1 to 5 from your old engine and then keep them as a ready programmed spares.

OK, I have the old ones ready to go anyway.

One more problem:

When cold the glow plug light comes on and goes out - and it generally starts OK but twice now has cut out again. But I can't get the glow plug light on again unless I wait for a while. Obviously without the pre-heat it takes ages to start, so what is the trick to get the pre-heat on again when needed? Once it glows a second time it starts without fault and perfectly. Once hot it also starts perfectly.

What is the trick with these things or do I have a loose connection somewhere?

Super Dragpack said:

OK, I have the old ones ready to go anyway.

One more problem:

When cold the glow plug light comes on and goes out - and it generally starts OK but twice now has cut out again. But I can't get the glow plug light on again unless I wait for a while. Obviously without the pre-heat it takes ages to start, so what is the trick to get the pre-heat on again when needed? Once it glows a second time it starts without fault and perfectly. Once hot it also starts perfectly.

What is the trick with these things or do I have a loose connection somewhere?

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It shouldn't need the glow plugs to start unless its very cold.. It could be an injector washer or o ring fault. It sounds more like an electrical problem that may be found with a diagnostic check though.

ratty said:

It shouldn't need the glow plugs to start unless its very cold.. It could be an injector washer or o ring fault. It sounds more like an electrical problem that may be found with a diagnostic check though.

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My understanding of diesel engines (based on a dad who is a retired diesel mechanic), is that all diesel engines need to be pre-heated to start and often (older engines mainly) primed with more fuel too.

My issues was only when stone cold (mornings etc) and therefore denote an electrical issue. There is no diesel in the oil, low compression or air in the fuel symptoms and therefore this would not point to an injector seal issue - imo.

Following a quick check round the connects yesterday, it started first time and perfectly this morning and has been fine since.

There is two thoughts to this now:

1/ It was an electrical issue which is now sorted by checking the plugs again
2/ I had a mild/major oil drip from the turbo oil return pipe (which I have sorted now) - could this of caused a sensor to shut the engine off when cold and therefore dry of oil?

Super Dragpack said:

My understanding of diesel engines (based on a dad who is a retired diesel mechanic), is that all diesel engines need to be pre-heated to start and often (older engines mainly) primed with more fuel too.

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This is true of older diesel engines but not so much newer engines

My issues was only when stone cold (mornings etc) and therefore denote an electrical issue. There is no diesel in the oil, low compression or air in the fuel symptoms and therefore this would not point to an injector seal issue - imo.

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It could also have pointed to a low fuel pressure issue

Following a quick check round the connects yesterday, it started first time and perfectly this morning and has been fine since.

There is two thoughts to this now:

1/ It was an electrical issue which is now sorted by checking the plugs again

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yes. That is possible.

2/ I had a mild/major oil drip from the turbo oil return pipe (which I have sorted now) - could this of caused a sensor to shut the engine off when cold and therefore dry of oil?

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Plugging into a diagnostic computer should show any stored faults

Cheers.

I thought it had been cured, but this evening I walked up to it (been sat for 5 hours+) and it smelt of diesel a little, but it started 1st time, but then cut out and took ages to start again (and was then fine).

I think the diesel smell is suggesting that I have a fuel leak issue whereby it is draining back to the tank and getting air in the system when sat for a while. I had this on a classic petrol car once - was a pain as it ran for a while on the fuel on the float chamber but then would cut out - took me ages to even think of a fuel line issue as the leak was so minor you couldn't notice it.

Anyway, I will check the connections again in the moring (it had all new lines only 2 months ago).