109 to 88 paperwork

steluc · Jul 2, 2008

Hi has anyone converted a 109 to an 88?
I have and now I would like to sort out the V5 as there is no a box to change section D.2 model/type which says 109"-4CYL I need it to say 88"-4CYL any ideas????
Cheers. steluc

Pikey · Jul 2, 2008

Yep you need to take the vehicle to a vosa test station and have the vehicle SVA'd because you've shortened the chassis.

steluc · Jul 2, 2008

If i get an sva will it lose its historic vehicle status

Pikey · Jul 2, 2008

Probably unless the 88" chassis was pre 72 and you have the log book to prove it

steluc · Jul 2, 2008

It was done by welding a rear half chasis so front half of chasis is origenal and I do have reg doc

Pikey · Jul 2, 2008

Nope they aren't going to wear that. If you want tax exemption buy a tax exempt 88 chassis. with V5 and use that.

protactor · Jul 2, 2008

I reckon you lose exempt status too. You can rebuild on a replacement identical chassis - that is just a 'repair'. But you have changed the chassis type (like if you changed to coils) so I would very much doubt you will be OK. You will *probably* end up on a Q plate as well.

fenby1976 · Jul 3, 2008

Why make things complicated? I think that if I were you I would tell the DVLA nothing and just put it through it's MOT. If the tester notices the discrepancy between the model type on the V5 and the actual length of the vehicle, just show them the chassis number stamped on the front offside spring hanger (assuming you have not replaced it). I am sure there are plenty of hybrids around with Range Rover chassis shortened to fit 88" Land Rover bodies, which describe the vehicle as a Range Rover in the V5. I think that it's important to tell your insurance company what you have done though.

Have a look at the DVLA website. There is a points based system for deciding if a modified vehicle can keep it's I.D. If your engine, suspension system, transmission and chassis are original I think you have a very strong argument that the vehicle should keep it's I.D.

doobie · Jul 3, 2008

its the way of the world today, you've just spent a lot of effort building your landy and its not the hard work thats the most difficult bit, its the fookin paper work!!

fenby1976 · Jul 3, 2008

The following is an extract from the DVLA website:

Vehicles that have been rebuilt using a mix of new or used parts

In order to retain the original registration mark:

cars and car-derived vans must use:

The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque)

Looks like I was wrong about you having a strong argument for keeping the vehicle I.D.

protactor · Jul 4, 2008

I've got to ask... why on earth didn't you just buy an 88 and do it up? As it is, you are gonna have problems, and that is one more 109 that is no more...

Disco Inferno · Jul 4, 2008

The V5 for my 72 series says wheel plan NOT-RECORDED. so it could be either a 109" or 88"?? Are you sure your V5 stipulates is wheel base?

My V5 info

25/1/1972
Land Rover
Petrol
Historic vehicle
Green

Like I mentioned in a thred this week, so long as I have a green petrol landrover (Length unspesified and engine cc unspesified) It can be taken for a MOT with no questions asked as to its origionality or type. I may be wrong but I dont see the DVLA having more information than I have on my V5 and them not writing it on there??

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