starts and then dies

[JohnnyCrash]

Hi still not starting :-(

New fuel filter when pump replaced, then drove car 50+ miles before this happened

Been out today it drops 180ml fuel on demand, so filled filter with clean fuel and tried again, and now it's not even starting :-( sounds like it keeps almost catching but then doesn't, battery now on charge again :-(

What's next?

 

[Datatek]

Hi still not starting :-(

New fuel filter when pump replaced, then drove car 50+ miles before this happened

Been out today it drops 180ml fuel on demand, so filled filter with clean fuel and tried again, and now it's not even starting :-( sounds like it keeps almost catching but then doesn't, battery now on charge again :-(

What's next?

Slacken all the injector couplings, while someone cranks it thighten them one at a time when you get fuel out, careful, it may start at some point.

 

[JohnnyCrash]

Will do soon as battery has some power again

 

[JohnnyCrash]

Cracked injectors was spitting fuel all over, tightened them all up but still won't fire up

 

[JohnnyCrash]

I'm guessing as yesterday it fired then cut out and today it won't fire that it's blocked injectors? ?

 

[wammers]

I'm guessing as yesterday it fired then cut out and today it won't fire that it's blocked injectors? ?

Injectors very seldom if ever block. You may just have had a major glow plug fail.

 

[JohnnyCrash]

Injectors very seldom if ever block. You may just have had a major glow plug fail. Is the engine check lamp going out shortly after switch on?

No the lamp stays lit for quite a while and have bled system as data says

 

[tomcat59alan]

No the lamp stays lit for quite a while and have bled system as data says

But are the plugs heating up?

 

[wammers]

No the lamp stays lit for quite a while and have bled system as data says

If check lamp is staying on for more than a few seconds that may indicate a problem. But also if you are getting fuel to injectors it should at least fart now and then. Would have a look at glow plugs check for power to them first off. To check continuity you will have to disconnect each one and do them individually. If one is good and five are duff and you check continuity with them connected you will get a reading on all of them. Because they all come from the same bus. If the glows are down and you have been trying to start without getting engine to fire or pick up the cylinders will be very wet expect smoke and funny noises when it eventually does pick up.

 

[wammers]

But are the plugs heating up?

I am talking about engine check lamp, not glow indicator lamp.

 

[JohnnyCrash]

Engine check lamp goes out, I was talking about glow plug lamp

I have no multi meter with me here though :-/

 

[tomcat59alan]

I am talking about engine check lamp, not glow indicator lamp.

My mistake, trying to do two things at once. On putor and watching the Remembrance Service on tv as I cannot attend in person this year

 

[Saint.V8]

Diesel only needs 4 things....

Air
Fuel
Heat
Compression

You have fuel....next check for heat...make sure induction ducting isn,t blocked (doubtful)....lastly check compression (doubtful this is the cause)

Oh and a fast spin on starting

 

[wammers]

Engine check lamp goes out, I was talking about glow plug lamp

I have no multi meter with me here though :-/

I asked about the check lamp but no matter. Glow lamp on does not mean the glows are glowing, it just means the relay is active. I am now thinking you have had a multiple plug fail. Think that is the way to go now.

 

[JohnnyCrash]

I asked about the check lamp but no matter. Glow lamp on does not mean the glows are glowing, it just means the relay is active. I am now thinking you have had a multiple plug fail. Think that is the way to go now.

Thanks will go have another look :-/

 

[tomcat59alan]

I asked about the check lamp but no matter. Glow lamp on does not mean the glows are glowing, it just means the relay is active. I am now thinking you have had a multiple plug fail. Think that is the way to go now.

Guess he was thinking the same as me, glad I'm not the only one

 

[wammers]

Guess he was thinking the same as me, glad I'm not the only one

Would seem so.

 

[JohnnyCrash]

So if the glow plugs are not getting warm for whatever reason, so long as I'm getting fuel and compression I should be able to start on easy start? ?

 

[wammers]

So if the glow plugs are not getting warm for whatever reason, so long as I'm getting fuel and compression I should be able to start on easy start? ?

Yes, but be aware if the cylinders are wet it may make a few strange noises and could do serious damage if you over do it. Slowly slowly catchy monkey.

 

[JohnnyCrash]

Yes, but be aware if the cylinders are wet it may make a few strange noises and could do serious damage if you over do it. Slowly slowly catchy monkey.

Started within seconds! Looks like plugs then!