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Thanks for that Den. Swapped them round but still no joy. But it did give me another test point - no 12v from ignition. supplied 12v to solenoid pin (87) and engine turned over. SO I think I'm looking at a new ighition switch, ha, well I say 'new' at the moment i'll take what i can get lol...

P.s. this is why i'm thinking starter relay. If I could fing the thing then I might be able to test it, always the esay option, thats me.

Thanks for the reply, nice to know that somthings cheap for this money pit. Cleaned the spade as a 'first' try method, slight corrosion on there, but with no joy. If the solenoids faulty did I really make a difference connecting it straight to the battery or was it just chance? :confused:

HI I have a Freelander 2.0 diesel (1999)with an intermittent starting problem. Turn the key and all dash lights come on as usual, small 'click' from under dash, blower stopped while trying to start, and nothing else. Found my way to the starter/solenoid and checked voltage on solenoid on...