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I'll have another go on Thursday and if I still can't get it off I'll post some photos. Thanks.

Yes I know what you mean. I'll have another go. This is on a defender with air conditioning and a winch. However, it's not welded on so if it bolted on it must be able to come off. Thanks for your replies.

I can get all the screws out but can't move the grill past the A Bar.

Ahh yes and there lies the problem. I can't remove the grille to get at and withdraw the bumper bolts because the A Bar prevents it. Chicken and egg situation hence my query - the solution will be very obvious when we get sight of the instructions!

anybody got the instructions for fitting/removing a genuine Land Rover A bar from a defender?