andyfreelandy
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Just above brake pedal. Quarter turn to remove.
Freelander 1 Brake light switch woes, blowing fuse
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one-eyedriley
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Hey folks, is you suspect your brake lights are blowing a fuse then it’s pretty easy to test the circuits and find a short.
Shouldn’t need more than couple spare fuses, a standard automotive test light, jump leads and a bar to put between the driver seat and the brake pedal.
If you get stuck let me know and I’ll look at the wiring diagrams and help guide you to testing it.
Cheers
Shouldn’t need more than couple spare fuses, a standard automotive test light, jump leads and a bar to put between the driver seat and the brake pedal.
If you get stuck let me know and I’ll look at the wiring diagrams and help guide you to testing it.
Cheers
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bumper lights looking good, no corrosion in bulbholders, wiring loom looks OK. Getting a bit dark now but I will take out the bulbs tomorrow and carefully run it around to make sure its not just a bulb problem.
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Thanks, from other posts on the subject, with the "2 amigos" being present it seems prime suspect is the brake light switch itself, looks like that should be checked/replaced.
Appreciate the offer of help which I will certainly take up if needed.
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Now got a new switch but having difficulty fitting it, goes into the slot but can't turn it, even with the brake pedal down. Maybe needs someone with a bit more arm power than me! Now on holiday for a week so I will have another go when I get back.
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Back on the topic of no brake or reverse lights and 2 amigos on. Freelander 1 TD4 auto. Checked all I can see and replaced the brake light switch. No difference. Even took it to an auto-electrician who couldn't solve it.
All is fine and brake lights work until reverse is selected so it seems to be something to do with that. And with an auto you have to go through reverse every time to get drive, fuse blows as soon as you do that. Relay problem?
Any thoughts gents? Many thanks!
All is fine and brake lights work until reverse is selected so it seems to be something to do with that. And with an auto you have to go through reverse every time to get drive, fuse blows as soon as you do that. Relay problem?
Any thoughts gents? Many thanks!
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My main thought is that it was a rather useless auto electrician.
Second thought is that its nothing to do with brakes if the fuse is for both reverse lights and brakes... and it happens when you put the car in reverse.
Does it do it if you don't have your foot on the brake when you go through reverse? eg if you have the hand brake on only.
So follow the reverse light wiring and you will find your culprit. Follow from the actual lamps back - the fault is most likely in the lamp, or as the wires come out of the door where they 'hinge'. Not sure how many reverse lights there are (I've only had mine 14 or 15 years) but you could start by pulling the live feeds off of the connectors to the bulb sockets and see what happens.
Check the wiring diagrams, find a connector before the door and separate it if possible, see if it still happens.
I'm not sure how the reverse lights work. I'd imagine the gear selector doesn't trigger it/them directly. It likely sends a feed to something like the CCU which then activates it/them. If that's the case, then the selector is definitely not the problem - it will be somewhere between the CCU and the lights.
Wiring diagrams and pictures of all the connectors (giving their location) can be found in the Rave Workshop Manual. Rave will also explain how the reverse lights are triggered, eg feed from selector to CCU etc or direct from selector. Rave can be downloaded using the links here...
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Second thought is that its nothing to do with brakes if the fuse is for both reverse lights and brakes... and it happens when you put the car in reverse.
Does it do it if you don't have your foot on the brake when you go through reverse? eg if you have the hand brake on only.
So follow the reverse light wiring and you will find your culprit. Follow from the actual lamps back - the fault is most likely in the lamp, or as the wires come out of the door where they 'hinge'. Not sure how many reverse lights there are (I've only had mine 14 or 15 years) but you could start by pulling the live feeds off of the connectors to the bulb sockets and see what happens.
Check the wiring diagrams, find a connector before the door and separate it if possible, see if it still happens.
I'm not sure how the reverse lights work. I'd imagine the gear selector doesn't trigger it/them directly. It likely sends a feed to something like the CCU which then activates it/them. If that's the case, then the selector is definitely not the problem - it will be somewhere between the CCU and the lights.
Wiring diagrams and pictures of all the connectors (giving their location) can be found in the Rave Workshop Manual. Rave will also explain how the reverse lights are triggered, eg feed from selector to CCU etc or direct from selector. Rave can be downloaded using the links here...
Rave disk maintenance manual
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My main thought is that it was a rather useless auto electrician.
Second thought is that its nothing to do with brakes if the fuse is for both reverse lights and brakes... and it happens when you put the car in reverse.
Does it do it if you don't have your foot on the brake when you go through reverse? eg if you have the hand brake on only.
So follow the reverse light wiring and you will find your culprit. Follow from the actual lamps back - the fault is most likely in the lamp, or as the wires come out of the door where they 'hinge'. Not sure how many reverse lights there are (I've only had mine 14 or 15 years) but you could start by pulling the live feeds off of the connectors to the bulb sockets and see what happens.
Check the wiring diagrams, find a connector before the door and separate it if possible, see if it still happens.
I'm not sure how the reverse lights work. I'd imagine the gear selector doesn't trigger it/them directly. It likely sends a feed to something like the CCU which then activates it/them. If that's the case, then the selector is definitely not the problem - it will be somewhere between the CCU and the lights.
Wiring diagrams and pictures of all the connectors (giving their location) can be found in the Rave Workshop Manual. Rave will also explain how the reverse lights are triggered, eg feed from selector to CCU etc or direct from selector. Rave can be downloaded using the links here...
Rave disk maintenance manual
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Manual: it's all powered through the gearbox switch, very simple.
Auto: powered by a relay which is triggered (from memory) by the Jatco ECU.
one-eyedriley
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My main thought is that it was a rather useless auto electrician.
Second thought is that its nothing to do with brakes if the fuse is for both reverse lights and brakes... and it happens when you put the car in reverse.
Does it do it if you don't have your foot on the brake when you go through reverse? eg if you have the hand brake on only.
So follow the reverse light wiring and you will find your culprit. Follow from the actual lamps back - the fault is most likely in the lamp, or as the wires come out of the door where they 'hinge'. Not sure how many reverse lights there are (I've only had mine 14 or 15 years) but you could start by pulling the live feeds off of the connectors to the bulb sockets and see what happens.
Check the wiring diagrams, find a connector before the door and separate it if possible, see if it still happens.
I'm not sure how the reverse lights work. I'd imagine the gear selector doesn't trigger it/them directly. It likely sends a feed to something like the CCU which then activates it/them. If that's the case, then the selector is definitely not the problem - it will be somewhere between the CCU and the lights.
Wiring diagrams and pictures of all the connectors (giving their location) can be found in the Rave Workshop Manual. Rave will also explain how the reverse lights are triggered, eg feed from selector to CCU etc or direct from selector. Rave can be downloaded using the links here...
Rave disk maintenance manual
I'm putting this ere so I can link to it. If you can see adverts on this page selling car repair manuals, DONT click on them. They're sneaky adverts from google which detect words used in this fred, on the chance you will be attracted to click on said advert. The adverts are trying to get you...
one-eyedriley
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Thanks for those ideas, I'll have a look starting at the lights. I actually have Haynes manual with the wiring diagram so will give that a study.
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