Turboman · Dec 9, 2021

kevstar said:
When I had was the manager of a garage years ago & the system changed to the computerised one,
vosa chap walked in flashed his id then went through years of mots & pulled out about 100 mots
that went through the till at 5 quid, easily explained as they were all staff from different depos.
I bet he thought he had me haha. Then he pulled out a drill & made me drill holes in all the books
of mots Dam they were worth a fortune.

They thought the computerised system was more secure, but in fact it is pretty easy to fiddle as well.

I think MOTs are a bit of a joke now, to be honest. They were originally to do with safety items.
Now, they are mostly to do with emissions. So in an hour appointment, the garage have to get the car in and out, and up on the ramp, and down on the brake tester. Fiddling around to get the emissions can take half an hour, and logging all the details on the system takes another ten minutes.
So all done and dusted the garage are likely to have 5-10 minutes to check all the safety items on a whole car.

Not surprising that the checks are done very quickly, and not all that thoroughly.
But then VOSA always think they know best, despite almost none of their employees having worked in a garage, or tested a car.

Shippers · Dec 9, 2021

Turboman said:
They thought the computerised system was more secure, but in fact it is pretty easy to fiddle as well.

I think MOTs are a bit of a joke now, to be honest. They were originally to do with safety items.
Now, they are mostly to do with emissions. So in an hour appointment, the garage have to get the car in and out, and up on the ramp, and down on the brake tester. Fiddling around to get the emissions can take half an hour, and logging all the details on the system takes another ten minutes.
So all done and dusted the garage are likely to have 5-10 minutes to check all the safety items on a whole car.

Not surprising that the checks are done very quickly, and not all that thoroughly.
But then VOSA always think they know best, despite almost none of their employees having worked in a garage, or tested a car.

Here in Portugal the vehicle is on camera showing reg plate and time logged during test and is done by a test centre not a garage there is only 9 centres here in the Algarve and they only test not repair...

Turboman · Dec 9, 2021

Shippers said:
Here in Portugal the vehicle is on camera showing reg plate and time logged during test and is done by a test centre not a garage there is only 9 centres here in the Algarve and they only test not repair...

In some ways, that would make more sense. If it is something the government want, then the government should provide facilities to do it.

Shippers · Dec 9, 2021

Turboman said:
In some ways, that would make more sense. If it is something the government want, then the government should provide facilities to do it.

Yes but 20€ in the ashtray still works...also unusually after tester has done emissions brake tracking and shocks on the computer you have to get in car and operate lights and then drive over pit while he checks the underside you park on plates that move wheels as you hold steering and hold brakes...it's a drive through warehouse and the certificate comes out of the machine with a square which has a foil patch on it that you detach and place on windscreen...

Turboman · Dec 9, 2021

Shippers said:
Yes but 20€ in the ashtray still works...also unusually after tester has done emissions brake tracking and shocks on the computer you have to get in car and operate lights and then drive over pit while he checks the underside you park on plates that move wheels as you hold steering and hold brakes...it's a drive through warehouse and the certificate comes out of the machine with a square which has a foil patch on it that you detach and place on windscreen...

That is the problem with all this stuff. For every technology, a counter technology appears a few days later.
And it is almost impossible to deal with rogue operators who have been incentivised by financial means.

marjon · Dec 9, 2021

Shippers said:
Here in Portugal the vehicle is on camera showing reg plate and time logged during test and is done by a test centre not a garage there is only 9 centres here in the Algarve and they only test not repair...

Same here on camera including trailers, proof you were there

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J

wattfield · Dec 10, 2021

The garage I used to use were honest about the test, but for regulars would test the car before logging into the computer. If it passed they logged on for the appropriate time and you got your MOT, if not they didn’t record a fail.

flat · Dec 10, 2021

Turboman said:
In some ways, that would make more sense. If it is something the government want, then the government should provide facilities to do it.

To be fair you can go to test only council centres, that’s what I did for the first mot on my Land Rover when it first went on the road, I didn’t want some garage dreaming up ‘essential repairs’ - it was fine and the council people were quite good. bit of a risk as if it does fail badly you have to recover it away to a garage rather than leave it to be fixed iyswim.

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