Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Where did you get ya weights info from??
Don't buy a kinectic rope. 1 mistake will kill you. Buy a 2tonne lifting strop if it's a rated lifting strop (not a tow strap) it will have a breaking strain if 14tonnes.
wiltshire landyman
I’m back
kinetic ropes used correctly will be one of your best friends in an offroad recovery situation.ive never had a problem with one
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Not the sort of thing to recommend to a nooby though. I'd never allow anyone to recover me using a kinetic rope.
A/ because theres no way of knowing what stresses have been placed on the rope previously
B/ because you don't know how many times the rope has been used before.
C/ they place too much stress on both vehicles recovery points and either one could let go without any warning and with lethal consequences.
And the latter reason is why many off road centres and 4x4 rgroups and clubs have banned their use.
BillyBedlam
New Member
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBnxSqpuCM&feature=related"]YouTube - Using Kinetic Straps with John Rich[/ame]
byway-basher
New Member
Damar webbing products on flea-bay do a wide range of strops & straps in just about any capacity and length you care to ask for, and not too badly priced either.
this
and
this
are not bad "starter kits". Dont skimp on the shackles. Nothing sillier, or potentially as dangerous as a super-heavy-duty strap connected to a pound shop shackle.
Kinetic recovery is not for newbies, but then everybody is new to using it at some point. That is not to say there is nothing valid about redhands points, I personally would only every use my kinetic strap on my vehicle, that takes two of the unknowns out of the equation.
this
and
this
are not bad "starter kits". Dont skimp on the shackles. Nothing sillier, or potentially as dangerous as a super-heavy-duty strap connected to a pound shop shackle.
Kinetic recovery is not for newbies, but then everybody is new to using it at some point. That is not to say there is nothing valid about redhands points, I personally would only every use my kinetic strap on my vehicle, that takes two of the unknowns out of the equation.
It's also worth saying that tow straps are not to be used as snatch (kinetic) straps .. if you use a tow strap/strop as a snatch strap there's a real chance that the strap won't break, but either the rocvery or recovered vehicle will! There's nothing more designed to find a weak chassis than a snatch recovery using the wrong kit.
In my opinion there's a lot to be said for a decent size 'proper' rope, at least 1" diameter, many fibres, has some give that tow strops don't, still isn't a kinetic, but has some resilience which makes it much, much kinder to either vehicle.
It all depends who you get recovered by.Ive been stuck and helped at PnPs and fellas say "ill recover ya".Five minutes later you wish they hadnt offered.I alaways use me own gear to recover and try to use me own when being recovered.There are some right numptys out there who dont think about the forces involved, it can be dangerous.I prefer a gentle tow from 1 or more landies than a quick snatch.
Spyderman
New Member
I've seen at a P&P a bloke recover someone with Kinetic rope attached to a chain for extra length.
The recovery point on the stuck vehicle let go and the whole lot went through the rear window on the tow vehicle. It missed the driver, don't know how, it would have killed him.
I use the 'Pro-Comp' recovery straps and rated shackles only. The Pro-Comp straps have a degree of stretch to them like a rope. Don't like normal straps, way too aggressive.
The recovery point on the stuck vehicle let go and the whole lot went through the rear window on the tow vehicle. It missed the driver, don't know how, it would have killed him.I use the 'Pro-Comp' recovery straps and rated shackles only. The Pro-Comp straps have a degree of stretch to them like a rope. Don't like normal straps, way too aggressive.
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Booger
New Member
If you are retarded a kinetic rope will kill you, it's true
I have kinetic ropes that I use as normal ropes (more gentle with a bit of stretch), and if I had absolutely no option but to use the rope as a kinetic, I'd anchor it on with a big ass rated shackle, then thred a bridle rope through the big ass rated shackle, and attach it to two more recovery points on the vehicle with smaller rated shackles. (That way you don't have worlds biggest slingshot aimed at yor head)
It's nice to have the option of being able to do that kind of recovery if needed, but if I had to buy ropes again I'd do what Spyderman says, cause an 8M Kinetic, 2 x 4m Bridles, and 6 rated shackles, weigh a shedload & take up a heap of space.
I have kinetic ropes that I use as normal ropes (more gentle with a bit of stretch), and if I had absolutely no option but to use the rope as a kinetic, I'd anchor it on with a big ass rated shackle, then thred a bridle rope through the big ass rated shackle, and attach it to two more recovery points on the vehicle with smaller rated shackles. (That way you don't have worlds biggest slingshot aimed at yor head)
It's nice to have the option of being able to do that kind of recovery if needed, but if I had to buy ropes again I'd do what Spyderman says, cause an 8M Kinetic, 2 x 4m Bridles, and 6 rated shackles, weigh a shedload & take up a heap of space.
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hext
Active Member
This is the reason for me not to use one.
I've seen part of crossmember come flying off, the nice bloke with solid motor nice new kinetic rope trying to help out a fellow landy lover and the idiot with a rusted 110.
After that I wouldn't chance it, yes it is brilliant equipment but I'd rather not see a crossmember come flying through the back of my 90
saxokid18
New Member
i have gatherd that the kinetic straps arnt for me as i have never been offroading yet . what lengh is recomended also would it be safe enough to put the end of the rope through the hole in the crossmember on the series 3 and attatch it here then no need for shackes and is it advisable having 2 1 for back attached and 1 on front ? its just im goin to start offroading and would rather go equipted than look a dick with nothing of any use
saxokid18
New Member
Tim.C
Active Member
No abuse please, and I didn't buy it, but
I've found a 'tow rope', with a hook one end, loop the other, it's yellow, and.........
.....it says Halfords on it
Does it have a use, or should I bin it.
Course it has a use .. but you don't wanna know where the use is or how it fits ...
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Seriously, it doesn't have a use in a stuck vehicle recovery situation, and especially not off-road or green-laning. They're strictly on-road, rolling chassis/vehicle movements ie a rolling load, not a stuck in the mud load ...
:mooning:
Seriously, it doesn't have a use in a stuck vehicle recovery situation, and especially not off-road or green-laning. They're strictly on-road, rolling chassis/vehicle movements ie a rolling load, not a stuck in the mud load ...
It does wot is sez on the tin, er rope.Its a tow rope for towing whilst on road.It wont be much good for recocvery.The forces in recovery are high.I snapped a 4 ton strop being recovered.It was probbaly better suited for towing on road.No abuse please, and I didn't buy it, but
I've found a 'tow rope', with a hook one end, loop the other, it's yellow, and.........
.....it says Halfords on it
Does it have a use, or should I bin it.
