also a decent strap/strop will have eyelets at both ends, that way you can used your nicely rated shackles to attach to whatever you want.
 
saxokid18 said:
i have gatherd that the kinetic straps arnt for me as i have never been offroading yet . what lengh is recomended also would it be safe enough to put the end of the rope through the hole in the crossmember on the series 3 and attatch it here then no need for shackes and is it advisable having 2 1 for back attached and 1 on front ? its just im goin to start offroading and would rather go equipted than look a dick with nothing of any use
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No

Length will depend on the circumstances. It should be enough to put the recovering vehicle on good ground, usually somewhere between 10 feet and 100 feet!
Why attach ropes permanently unless you know you are going to get stuck?

Make sure you first go off road with someone who knows what they are doing (don't ask me how you can tell!) and learn from them.
 
halfords rope i bet [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFzZhXtaqSI"]YouTube - Bad recovery rope[/ame]
 
theres tons of dodgy vids showing what to do.How was one mota gonna get him out of this?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEtuO-Mh9Lg"]YouTube - Recovery rope snapped dangerous[/ame]
 
JESUS!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIM_muTDeI0&feature=related"]YouTube - Kinetic recovery[/ame]
 
last one [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFX4BriYj2w&feature=related"]YouTube - Dundry Snap[/ame]
 
saxokid18 said:
.....also would it be safe enough to put the end of the rope through the hole in the crossmember on the series 3 and attatch it here then no need for shackes and is it advisable having 2 1 for back attached and 1 on front ?
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I personally dont leave ropes/straps on all the time. But on the other hand if I am going out for the day knowing that there is a pretty good chance of someone getting stuck, I will leave a bridle on the front and a strap on the back securely held out of the way, simply because trying to attach them once door handle deep in the slimy stuff can be a difficult job. Not to mention cold, wet and dirty.

There is also the sods law element, if all strapped up before entering the bad ground you will drive right on through. If you go through without them its almost certain to result in being stuck and laying on the bonnet trying to attach a shackle under 6 inches of ice cold muddy water and dropping the damn shackle pin.
 
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I only leave bridles and straps/strops on for Pay 'n Play days. There are times when you know you're going to get stuck, but try it anyway .. :)

There have been times when my recovery points are under water/mud and the only way to reach them is if they're already connected .. :)
 
I recently went on a recovery course, very tedious, we spent ages just checking the labels on ropes, but watching some of those vids (and I've seen much similar over the years) reminds me what it is about.
Safe standing areas is one many ignore
 
Davec said:
I recently went on a recovery course, very tedious, we spent ages just checking the labels on ropes, but watching some of those vids (and I've seen much similar over the years) reminds me what it is about.
Safe standing areas is one many ignore
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Obviously everyone in those vids was retarded :D
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8dKZLJQnw0&NR=1&feature=fvwp"]YouTube - Rope Snap[/ame]

hmmmmm
 
Paul D said:
It's also worth saying that tow straps are not to be used as snatch (kinetic) straps .. if you use a tow strap/strop as a snatch strap there's a real chance that the strap won't break, but either the rocvery or recovered vehicle will! There's nothing more designed to find a weak chassis than a snatch recovery using the wrong kit.

In my opinion there's a lot to be said for a decent size 'proper' rope, at least 1" diameter, many fibres, has some give that tow strops don't, still isn't a kinetic, but has some resilience which makes it much, much kinder to either vehicle.
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Exactly Do not buy a strop they are next to useless if you need to hoof you out of somwhere. Which if your a noobie will be what you will need. Also if you like your back and vehicle components dont ever use a strop for a rolling pull or slight snatch sush use will generate lots of force ripping off vehicle components and jarr your back. Winching yes they are great towing bit ****e really.

You really cant go worng with a 24mm nylon rope rated at 8 or 12 tonnes. I have an 8 meter one that can be doubled up. 4meters and 8 meters i have found very useful. I have had it almost 9 years its going to be replaced soon but its THE item noobies should buy.
Cheap and looked after will be for a good for a slow pull and for some with lets say some with a bit more oomph needed. Jai
 
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