Please note the badged output often exceeds the rated output on rating plate
(clarke models) and to weld buildings 400v 18 amp per phase incoming is ample.
 
I understand electric to a point.
To run a 230 single phase, id need dedicated circuit 16a plus to run it, but that Clark I linked would run off 13a domestic socket.
And on that website the next one up is the parweld jobbie, a single phase unit, I couldn't wing it on a 13a supply could I?
I think I already know the answer:D

What are euro torches?
 
I understand electric to a point.
To run a 230 single phase, id need dedicated circuit 16a plus to run it, but that Clark I linked would run off 13a domestic socket.
And on that website the next one up is the parweld jobbie, a single phase unit, I couldn't wing it on a 13a supply could I?
I think I already know the answer:D

What are euro torches?

''Copper wound transformers and triple smoothing capacitor bank give it a nice smooth arc and it will operate from a 13 amp fused supply up to number 5 of it's 6 voltage settings. On the highest setting 6 it will blow a 13 amp fuse and requires a 16 amp supply.''
 
As Sean said, it means that you can disconnect the torch and stick it on any welder. This means that should you break the torch, you can upgrade to it a better one instead of having to stick to the manufacturers one and should you upgrade the welder later, you can keep the torch as a spare etc.

I have a mate with 2 different migs, one factory fit euro torch and one very nice euro torch, he swaps the torch around because he likes it so much compared to the other one.

Harry
 
Cold lap, a mig can start bad and conduct through the bead itself causing zero penetration whereas a arc weld that looks good is good(unless its a heavy plate that hasnt been preheated)
If Im doing critical work eg pipe I do tig or low hyd rod root run then a good rod for following beads.

I hear what you're saying, but I think the statement 'Critical jobs are SMAW only' is a bit mis-leading.

There are plenty of 'critical' welding jobs which are handled by MIG or TIG welding. Indeed an experienced welder will be able to achieve perfectly strong durable welds with the right equipment in either form of welding.
 
I hear what you're saying, but I think the statement 'Critical jobs are SMAW only' is a bit mis-leading.

There are plenty of 'critical' welding jobs which are handled by MIG or TIG welding. Indeed an experienced welder will be able to achieve perfectly strong durable welds with the right equipment in either form of welding.

Dont put tig in the same group as mig or arc,as its a fully controlled process and I said IT IS speced for critical work and produces the best welds in the right hands.
You will find nearly all pressure vessels either tig welded, tig root and arc filler or submerged arc
I made some parts for a building and engineering drawings specified coded weld using low hydrogen rods and no mig.
Mig produces a very good low hyd weld but can go wrong hence its not allowed on everything.
 
I had a Clarke minimig 100e for 20 years and it was capable of welding a Landy chassis with the right prep and technique, when that finally went bang I bought a 150 amp Clarke mig.
I know the "experts" will tell you you need to spend a lot of money for a "decent" welder but honestly the Clarke ones are fine for most of us who just need to do a bit of repair work now and again.
For the weekend welder the secret is more about practice than equipment.
 
Im running an ESAB 251.
You know the difference straight away from the cheaper welders, personally i would save the pennies and buy a decent one you wont regret it.
 
or a quality used one like a murex, all we use at work- sent the others back as they were ****e!
 
or a quality used one like a murex, all we use at work- sent the others back as they were ****e!

True once a novice or who ever has used a real welder they realise that diy welder they once thought was good is a pos
 
''Copper wound transformers and triple smoothing capacitor bank give it a nice smooth arc and it will operate from a 13 amp fused supply up to number 5 of it's 6 voltage settings. On the highest setting 6 it will blow a 13 amp fuse and requires a 16 amp supply.''

Might go with the more better one then, should be getting rebate soon;):D:D
I doubt I will be welding big stuff anyhow
I want something that will last and be a good welder.
No having welding on my list of 'things I can do' is annoying:D
 
Portamig seem to have a very good reputation for quality no-frills welders. They are handmade in up in yorkshire. A lot of people on the mig-welding rave about them.
 
Portamig seem to have a very good reputation for quality no-frills welders. They are handmade in up in yorkshire. A lot of people on the mig-welding rave about them.
They are made by technical arc who make oxford migs ,their own brand and portamig.
Shame they dont sell direct and dont have many dealers near to me otherwise Id have one any day.
 
when i bought a mig id never used one...been using arc for years... so the choice was a new budget machine or a used "quality" machine off fleabay with no guarantee it would work as it should. used clarkes and the like seem to make silly money..so i went with the new budget one...
 
when i bought a mig id never used one...been using arc for years... so the choice was a new budget machine or a used "quality" machine off fleabay with no guarantee it would work as it should. used clarkes and the like seem to make silly money..so i went with the new budget one...

And what happened?:lol:
What was yer verdict? Finish off yer bloody post:lol::D
 
Might go with the more better one then, should be getting rebate soon;):D:D
I doubt I will be welding big stuff anyhow
I want something that will last and be a good welder.
No having welding on my list of 'things I can do' is annoying:D

its the really thin body stuff the cheapo ones can have trouble with too.

my mates go a clark one and it could barely tack 1.2 steel, it did fook all or blew a hole in it no matter what you did. waste of time!
 
They are made by technical arc who make oxford migs ,their own brand and portamig.
Shame they dont sell direct and dont have many dealers near to me otherwise Id have one any day.

They are available from both weldequip and also migtigandarc, been looking at them quite a bit and think i'm going to be placing an order in the next few weeks. The latter sell them under the brand MTA but as you say, they are the same.
 

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