tarphenry said:
watched mileometer go past 200000, running beautifully better than a new L322
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Welcome to the high miles club, I'm not far off 250,000 on mine, although I'll probably miss it now as a bulb in the message centre has died.

Lone_Wolf said:
Continued with my headlining recover.
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From someone who can do mechanical but has little patients for fiddly jobs, where would you say this project falls? As it stands my headlining is absolutely disgusting so needs replacing, but it seems to be a huge undertaking.
 
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Bix said:
From someone who can do mechanical but has little patients for fiddly jobs, where would you say this project falls? As it stands my headlining is absolutely disgusting so needs replacing, but it seems to be a huge undertaking.
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Not half as bad as you fear. Piece of **** but takes a few hours (although bear in mind I had no sunroof). Do it. You'll kick yourself for not doing it years ago.
 
Grrrrrr said:
Not half as bad as you fear. Piece of **** but takes a few hours (although bear in mind I had no sunroof). Do it. You'll kick yourself for not doing it years ago.
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Doesn't see to like the word c-a-k-e. Is this some anti-Mozz measure?
 
Trust me. You'll hardly ever look at it. I'm thinking of upholstering the underneath and behind the dash and perhaps the underside of the bonnet. I'd certainly put a minibar in place of the EAS pump for all the use it is. . Maybe even a cocktail bar behind the transfer box. That's where I spend most of my time. I've installed my router over the rear subframe with a monitor strapped to the compressed air cylinder so as not to miss a post on landyzone.
 
I have been putting off the headlining replacement for a couple of years now and didn't want to do it in all honesty. It became a problem though when I had some passengers in the back and to see them sitting there with the headlining draped over their heads was the crunch moment for me. Add to that we are going on holiday in the car next week I felt it just had to be done.
Is it a PITA job? Yes absolutely.
Is it difficult? No not really, but it does take time and some patience.
I used the guide on here written by Dopey https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/roof-lining-fix.171394/ and as a sanity check one on the US RangeRover.net site http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/headliner.html.
If I were to give any advice on the job I just say choose the fabric carefully if you have a sunroof, as if it's too thick and this is to do with the backing foam on headlining material it will cause you issues with the sunblind. Clean everything and keep your hands clean when doing the recover. You need to have space and time to this work as the headlining moulding is large. You also need a dry day for when you take out the sunroof because it will be out of the car for a while. In my case it took 4 hours just to deal with the sunroof element of the job, but I tend to work slowly and methodically.
The hardest part of the whole thing is the cleanup of the headlining moulding and the sunroof blind so it's ready to accept new glue. Do not shortcut this process.
For many it can be done in a single weekend. For me It will have taken 2 weekends worth of time in total as I'll be putting the headlining back in tonight.
As an idea this is the sort of time it takes:
  • 1 hour to get the old headlining moulding out of the car.
  • 10 minutes to remove the old cloth from the moulding.
  • 4 or so hours to clean up the moulding of old sticky foam residue. (I probably spent more like 6 hours here)
  • 2 hours approx to glue, fit and trim the new material onto the moulding.
  • 4 hours to remove sunroof cassette and deal with sunblind recover then refit the cassette.
  • 1 hour to clean up the pillar mouldings ready for refitting.
  • Am expecting to take 2 hours or so putting the headlining moulding and all the other bits back.
I'll post a picture of the end result. Whatever happens it has to be better than is was.
 
I must agree, its not difficult but it is daunting. Once started however its much easier than you think. as you say take your time and do it right,and when its done ,you will never look at it again.
 
This was going to be the next job to do on mine, i'd been putting it off for a while but it was surprising how quickly a little sag turns into a bedouin tent!
 
myfirstl322 said:
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I'm sure I'm sane. I was mad for my p38. Then the guy said you'd be mad not to buy it. Then someone said are you mad buying that? And someone else said you must be crazy spending all that time and money on that repair. Then someone said if you don't get rid of that you're certifiable. Then I got you must be barmy towing than van all the way down here. Matron keeps saying everything will be alright. So I'm not insane......Am I ? I'm just old. Today I'm waiting for my umpteenth set of airbags.
 
Lone_Wolf said:
I have been putting off the headlining replacement for a couple of years now and didn't want to do it in all honesty. It became a problem though when I had some passengers in the back and to see them sitting there with the headlining draped over their heads was the crunch moment for me. Add to that we are going on holiday in the car next week I felt it just had to be done.
Is it a PITA job? Yes absolutely.
Is it difficult? No not really, but it does take time and some patience.
I used the guide on here written by Dopey https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/roof-lining-fix.171394/ and as a sanity check one on the US RangeRover.net site http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/headliner.html.
If I were to give any advice on the job I just say choose the fabric carefully if you have a sunroof, as if it's too thick and this is to do with the backing foam on headlining material it will cause you issues with the sunblind. Clean everything and keep your hands clean when doing the recover. You need to have space and time to this work as the headlining moulding is large. You also need a dry day for when you take out the sunroof because it will be out of the car for a while. In my case it took 4 hours just to deal with the sunroof element of the job, but I tend to work slowly and methodically.
The hardest part of the whole thing is the cleanup of the headlining moulding and the sunroof blind so it's ready to accept new glue. Do not shortcut this process.
For many it can be done in a single weekend. For me It will have taken 2 weekends worth of time in total as I'll be putting the headlining back in tonight.
As an idea this is the sort of time it takes:
  • 1 hour to get the old headlining moulding out of the car.
  • 10 minutes to remove the old cloth from the moulding.
  • 4 or so hours to clean up the moulding of old sticky foam residue. (I probably spent more like 6 hours here)
  • 2 hours approx to glue, fit and trim the new material onto the moulding.
  • 4 hours to remove sunroof cassette and deal with sunblind recover then refit the cassette.
  • 1 hour to clean up the pillar mouldings ready for refitting.
  • Am expecting to take 2 hours or so putting the headlining moulding and all the other bits back.
I'll post a picture of the end result. Whatever happens it has to be better than is was.
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The sunroof must be the clincher. Did mine (without sunroof) on one sunny afternoon without rushing. Mind you, my backing was so knackered it pretty much just hoovered off. I used old walking socks on my hands to smooth the new liner into place.
 
I did mine, as I've mentioned. By the time I've finished all the jobs in my overhaul and especially the ones I'm making a pig's ear of, it'll be time to do it again. Today I'm still waiting for my airbags. The LAST set. I'll be dead by the time they need doing again.
 
Headlining finished.

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Looks OK.
 
Hats off to you. When it's hanging down, even in a small way it's bit like saying "don't think of the pink elephant". Once you've noticed it, or even worse- you know who- ignoring it isn't an option. We'll, what I've done today is kiss my beloved Ratbag of a p38 Westminster Thor 2002. Right on the lips. I'm now going to kiss everybody on landyzone. I mean everyone. My EAS pump didn't run for the 40 minutes I tested it and the pressure held at 140. Matron thought I'd got in with a bad crowd but she's quiet now.
 
Had her jump started by the AA,so I could get the dog to physio. I only left her 12 days and this is how she repays me!!
 
RRC not wanting to start last couple of times out, ignition key seemed a bit slack so after judicious fiddling with key we got going, so decided time to strip down, nice easy fix found (fingers crossed) terminal block on rear of ignition switch was loose, small punch and light tap on locating tags and all nice and firm and now starts first time. Martyn
 
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