Henry_b said:
Ah I know the Alveston red one you're talking about, being a VSE it is quite a rare beast, a far more desirable beast than the Westminster ;)

The Tax is around £346 atleast thats what I pay for my 2001 Vogue..

Mine had 6 owners, not very pampered though ;)

check
Wet carpet
EAS
Engine
and all the usual areas!

Good luck!
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Cheers, been doing a lot of online checks on it late last night and i found an old advert for it from last year. It appears the last owner has passed away so it was being sold from a deceased estate for £4750 o.n.o and now the current dealer who obviously bought it and has done approx 1000 miles in it had it up for initially £11995 and now £9995 cheeky sod. He has done nothing to it as it was fully serviced just prior to the last owners demise albeit the M.O.T expired yesterday and looking at it she will need new boots all round.

Just goes to show how these selling dealers will try and make a big profit on cars these days. Its being greedy in my book.
 
backinblack said:
Sorry was summoned by SWMBO, back now.

The D2 itself was fine and didn't give me too many problems but I ended up selling it and getting the L322. I checked the mot history the other day and still nothing about rust, maybe I should have kept it. Nah maybe not :D
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LOL, my missus suffers the same problem with HWMBO = ME!!!!!! LOL
 
frog hopper said:
Finished my epic refurb (in terms of the time it took) of the top tailgate seal and holder, so some photos, just cos we all likes photos.

Treated light rust with Fertan.View attachment 223618
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The seal carrier is pop riveted to the frame, problem for me was that my riveter was too big, solved that by just using a small nut as an extension for the nose of riveter.View attachment 223620
Seal carrier painted and fixed.
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Seal fitted with help from the doris to slide it on from the end.
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As mentioned earlier in the thread, between times of waiting for paint to dry I have been playing with my wood lathe, making some newel caps to finally finish the flight of stairs I made about 10 years ago. I am actually quite pleased with my efforts so am including photos of them as well, after 1st coat of varnish.
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The acorn and half acorn are oak, the mushroom is old oak with an acacia stem, the toadstool has an acacia top with oak stem. All around 4" dia.
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Is that what they call butt plug sex aids these days then?? Acorns. LOL
 
Grrrrrr said:
That is great. He'll have a second hand lump in it in no time anyway.

If you want a future classic then I would go 4.6.

Ease of maintenance I still say diesel. Henry disagrees but head gaskets are a service item on the v8 and the crank seals. Diesel you're looking at FIP and possibly chains on high rollers. V8 is nicer to drive, end of. After that it is luck of the draw.

And @Henry_b the diesel might burn hotter but it has less cylinders and a lot more space around the engine. The v8 out the back definitely gers hotter under the bonnet than the diesel out the front (or the other diesel out the back).
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Agreed the Diesel is better all rounder too IMHOP albeit sadly it did not work for me this time. I will consider a 4.6 or even a 4.0 as ive heard the 4.0 are a more desirable option. Just going by what i have read. So on my Hawkeye scanner there are differing sections for differing engines, GEMS, etc. Would like to know which refers to which engine for future ref: and use of it so i know i am scanning in the right sections.

Its all early days at the moment. Just want to put closure to this current disaster and then i will start looking again. There is another TD up in Scotland which has been advertised for over a year now with 1 owner from new ( Dead now i think ) full main agent history and only 35k miles on the clock. It looks like brand new still and is 10k albeit too much again i think. Possibly not been used for a while too so as soon as you put it back into use i could get all the same problems i got with my Westminster and then i am back to square bloody one again and i aint going there again. Far too much stress and sleepless nights i have had these last 8 weeks and now it seems it coming to an end thank god.

The dealer i bought it off will indeed get the engine either rebuilt or replaced. I will be keeping a close eye out for it re-appearing for sale KW02AEB - 2002 - Westminster TD. Keep your eyes peeled for it guys as it will appear soon enough. I know every inch of that car now and its full history and its has THOUSANDS spent on it by previous owners and myself too so it will once again be a great car with a new engine and al the other new bits on it NOW.
 
Enthusiastman said:
Agreed the Diesel is better all rounder too IMHOP albeit sadly it did not work for me this time. I will consider a 4.6 or even a 4.0 as ive heard the 4.0 are a more desirable option. Just going by what i have read. So on my Hawkeye scanner there are differing sections for differing engines, GEMS, etc. Would like to know which refers to which engine for future ref: and use of it so i know i am scanning in the right sections.

Its all early days at the moment. Just want to put closure to this current disaster and then i will start looking again. There is another TD up in Scotland which has been advertised for over a year now with 1 owner from new ( Dead now i think ) full main agent history and only 35k miles on the clock. It looks like brand new still and is 10k albeit too much again i think. Possibly not been used for a while too so as soon as you put it back into use i could get all the same problems i got with my Westminster and then i am back to square bloody one again and i aint going there again. Far too much stress and sleepless nights i have had these last 8 weeks and now it seems it coming to an end thank god.

The dealer i bought it off will indeed get the engine either rebuilt or replaced. I will be keeping a close eye out for it re-appearing for sale KW02AEB - 2002 - Westminster TD. Keep your eyes peeled for it guys as it will appear soon enough. I know every inch of that car now and its full history and its has THOUSANDS spent on it by previous owners and myself too so it will once again be a great car with a new engine and al the other new bits on it NOW.
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Unless its a second-hand engine then it could be back to square one.
 
tomcat59alan said:
Unless its a second-hand engine then it could be back to square one.
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Agreed buddy.
Im busy looking online on auto trader and alike at all the P38's currently for sale then i cross ref: them all on DVLA and look at all the M.O.T histories which for some are ok and some are bloody shocking!!! There is now 2 others i have been looking at V770 DUF P38 Autobiography which has been dropped 2k but has been off the road since FEB 2020. Its with a dealer and looks stunning albeit the interior is a tad sharpe on the eye and the wood trim has gone milky around the phase 1 carins satnav which will never be able to get a new one i doubt.
The other is a blue 98 S plate 4.6 v8 at a dealer in Chesterfield who likes to collect rare P38's. - S483SLF and he wants £6000 for it. The write up on it is amazing and the history is to die for. I just think its too much money for an older model P38 albeit i do like it alot.

I have also seen a 2002 P38 Vogue 4.6 which looks lovely albeit has a not so good M.O.T history BUT it has a Prinz LPG system fitted and Prinz are the best in LPG. I have owned 3 LPG cars in the past all fitted with Prinz and they were faultless and i loved owning them for duel fuel and double max range on both fuels. I used to use both fuels too all the time so as to not neglect the main fuel source as a lot of LPG owners just use the LPG side and when it goes wrong and they try to use the petrol side again they have issues.

Its all good food for thought stuff and plenty out there on offer too. Sadly they are all bloody miles away from me and we are in lockdown so cannot travel to see any.
 
Enthusiastman said:
I have already found one buddy albeit i am just holding back for now until i have 100% resolved the issue with my P38 Westminster TD going back to the dealer and him refunding me my monies. UPDATE too on that score : The dealer who sold me the car has had a complete change of heart over night and is now wanting to be my best friend again. LOL. He has already paid me back another £1000 tonight and promices to pay the rest back to me over the weekend. He has also said it will only be fair and for for him to give me an additional sum to compensate me for all the new bits i bought for it too and for all the new bits i had to leave on the car seeing as i had binned the old rotton bits so this for me is good news and i hope he lives true to his word. Looks like he listened to me last night and took the advice i gave him instead of it all going horribly wrong FOR HIM and his reputation as a trader.

So for now i shall just take stock of it all. I will indeed be keeping well away from all 2.5 TD models from now on. Once bitten and never again there. I shall also take extreame caution with this other one i have seen at a reputable dealers up north. I plan to ring him tomorow and have a very long chat with him about all things P38 v8 petrol and his is a 4.6 v8 BTW.

Cheers
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What does it cost to get a replacement used M51 over there anyways? It's a little over £1k here.
 
Wow...... that's really not bad at all!

By the time the lump is in and all hooked up, you'd be down over £2k out here..... but when mine died a couple years ago at 400k km (I suspect fake engine oil- it wasn't even consuming oil up to that point), it was worth my while dropping another one in.

@Enthusiastman , why didn't the economics work out for you? Was it labour charges?
 
No, we have a real problem with counterfeit engine oil out here. It's repackaged, filtered, used oil which in itself doesn't kill the engine outright, but sometimes some garages throw brake fluid and ATF in with the engine oil and when a batch like THAT gets into your engine.... well...... heh.

For me it was lesson hard learned- I'm very careful where I buy my engine oil from nowadays.

https://www.wapcar.my/news/over-30-...-in-hypermarts-and-online-stores-are-fake-483
 
DarthDude said:
No, we have a real problem with counterfeit engine oil out here. It's repackaged, filtered, used oil which in itself doesn't kill the engine outright, but sometimes some garages throw brake fluid and ATF in with the engine oil and when a batch like THAT gets into your engine.... well...... heh.

For me it was lesson hard learned- I'm very careful where I buy my engine oil from nowadays.

https://www.wapcar.my/news/over-30-...-in-hypermarts-and-online-stores-are-fake-483
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Wow I've never heard of such nobfoolery!!
 
marjon said:
Its called character/war wounds :):) Trattors are allowed and can get away with it:D much easier than a RR

J
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Not exclusively for trattors ,mine has character on the n/s/r due to me scraping the sandstone gate post when I was distracted by a neighbour whilst backing out of the drive.:eek:
 
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