gavbriggs said:

the city cars are usually the ones sat holding the traffic up as they are not able or competant to drive in snow!!

i love it, tell them you'll pull em for a fiver, when they say they wont pay, take the bloke behind instead!!!

they soon sort thier tree hugging opinions out.

as for the illegal payment, you are allowed to be reimbursed for your fuel (as in not for profit) i think. plus if its a donation to your favourite charity (you) then how could anyone complain!!!

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SpudH said:

Hey Overlandrover, nice to meet another guy with the same cars in his garage. We call ours Ying and Yang

The P38 has been peerless in its capability to deal with all conditions thrown at it. The local authorities have run out of salt for the roads over here so the roads are treacherous but I've never driven a vehicle that is so surefooted. I'm running Pirelli Scorpions all round and they've done really well. Heres a few pics from work today which is a 40 mile drive across mainly unsalted roads driven without any fuss. Managed to get stuck when I stopped in a drift:doh: can't blame the car for that but i always keep a folding shovel in the boot and had it out in a few minutes. Our snow here is more frozen sleet than real snow so you're travelling on a hard crust with very light powder underneath. Its no problem when taken with a bit of momentum but when you stop (to take a photo) it can be tricky to get going again. The North and East of Ireland is getting heavy snow but down it the South West its all heavy frost with occasional sleet showers.


And I'll echo what you're saying about the Prius, my wifes got one too and its performed brilliantly in the big freeze over here. Its only on road tires (we haven't had any serious cold weather down here since 1983 so no one has winter tires here) but its been great. It's confidence inspiring to drive it. I've heavily criticised the traction/stabilty control (mind you thats the driver, the wife doesn't even know its there) in the past but it makes the car almost unspinable. I took it on to a car park that was a sheet of ice to give it a good test and I've never seen anything recover a slide like it. I couldn't spin it without using the parking brake and even when you initiated a slide it almost self recovered every time. All you had to do was steer into the slide and it did the rest. I had it totally broadside a few times when I said to myself, it has to spin here, but no, it came out of it everytime. Unbelievable. Mind you the fuel economy does drop off dramatically in the cold.
We have to sell it soon as we have a third kid on the way and there's just no way of getting three child seats in the back. Its very disappointing. We're looking at replacing it with a Honda FRV.

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overlandrover said:

Hi SpudH

Not got the knack of handbrake turn in the prius as the handbrake is on the foot and it has to go all on, to get it bake off, but fun.

Yeah got to admit the consumtion has gone down to 55 average during the cold and dark nights, but in the summer its up to 65-70mpg. The £15 a year road tax makes me smile.
I look at is as the so called ''Carbon Off setting'' or what ever they call it, Yeah really, we are a free country so you drive what you want. Wife drives her i drive mine.

If the Goverment were that bothered about gas guzzeling motors why do they let the Police traffic cars be Volvo V70 T5, they average 16mpg and doing approx 50k per year, say no more, and now moving onto BMW 3ltr diesel that still only do 20mpg, still say thay may as well just have a fleet of Rangie's.

Strange how so many people comment on the Rangie, ''Bet you're glad you have that'' ''Its ok for you with your four wheel drive'' now they are stuffed.

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