myfirstl322
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Im back, but only to p**s of Martyn, he's so boring he's just following me like a wee dug, so i may have to give him a bit more lead...
Im back, but only to p**s of Martyn, he's so boring he's just following me like a wee dug, so i may have to give him a bit more lead...
anorakmark
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Take an L322 for a test drive and decide for yourself
You don't need our opinions
Have test driven a 4.4 Vogue, have to admit it was nice. After all the pro's and what seems to be more cons, I'm more bloody confused, lol.
No Confusion....
Simple Check List:
Are you prepared for the potential repair costs?
Are you prepared for the Frustration finding a potential Fault?
Are you prepared for the fueling costs?
Are you prepared for the constant 'listening, feeling and smelling' waiting for a fault to occur?
If you answer yes to all the above, get an L322....
Don't make the descion lightly, they are expensive and complicated, but if you are prepared for it and you have an understanding partner and a healthy understanding of Range Rover ways...they are a great vehicle...
I have detailed down all my trials and troubles with mine, search my Threads Started and have a read, I have put costs up where I can and detailed the problems and solutions I have encountered along the way - would I change back to the P38, No....
anorakmark
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Saint, your a saint mate
StuckAgainSteve
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HMRC owe me over £20k, predictably they're not so sprightly with their procedures when the shoe's on the other foot...Nope, selling mine because i owe some money to HMRC
anorakmark
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Right if anybody can assist what are the following issues on the L322. HID ECUS, IGNITERS, AND VANOS? What problem do these cause?
The HID Ignitors and ECU's are vunerable to failure, not 100% sure why, but it could be the placement and exposure to the elements being tucked under the bonnet behind the headlamp unit. They are a fairly common fail item, but I would say once every couple of years maybe!
The BMW VANOS system on the M62 is used to vary the intake Cam timing at differing engine speeds and loads.
The thing that fails is actually the guide rails for the timing chains, as they wear, the cam timing changes to a point that the VANOS system can no longer efficiently re-time the chains and they then tend to rattle....
Not a show stopper, but you will find it a tad under powered, the rattle annoying, and MPG goes south.
The official procedure is to replace the whole VANOS unit although there have been reports of being able to replace just the guides, but I have to admit I have never looked into it that much (yet
)A rattle on the M62 is usual on start up as the VANOS system wakes up, so it should go in a few seconds...a constant rattle could mean the guides a fecked.
The Later M62 engines used a Double VANOS system which is more complex, but the guides where made from a better quality material - alas these engines never made it into the Range Rover!
anorakmark
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Thanks saint. Really want to go for one just a hard decision weather to go for a 4.4 V8 or a TDV6, decisions. Gearbox failure frightening on the diesel, but I'm hearing the petrol suffers to. And this water ingress in the arse end, hmmmmm worrying.
Both boxes suffer issues - the GM Box on the Diesel eats itself, whereas the Petrol one can be saved when caught early.
As for water ingress...I have no issues (touch wood) in that respect, so I can only assume it only affects some and not all....that being said, a quick check every few weeks doesn't go a miss to catch any potential issues (Preventative Maintenance is better than a cure anyday)
The V8 is smooth and pokey whereas the TD6 is a strong unit and frugal...
if I could go back when I bought my L322 would I have stuck it out for a TD6 - doubtful, the V8 on LPG is just as frugal (in equivalent costs - not MPG) as the Diesel but with a V8 soundtrack and power....but the Diesel engine is a better built unit - just a pity about the GM Box....
As for water ingress...I have no issues (touch wood) in that respect, so I can only assume it only affects some and not all....that being said, a quick check every few weeks doesn't go a miss to catch any potential issues (Preventative Maintenance is better than a cure anyday)
The V8 is smooth and pokey whereas the TD6 is a strong unit and frugal...
if I could go back when I bought my L322 would I have stuck it out for a TD6 - doubtful, the V8 on LPG is just as frugal (in equivalent costs - not MPG
) as the Diesel but with a V8 soundtrack and power....but the Diesel engine is a better built unit - just a pity about the GM Box....
Datatek
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Gosh you are dumb, France generates 87% of it's electricity from nuclear.
Datatek
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There is no TDV6, it's an inline engine and pretty strong.
myfirstl322
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kevwill
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Ah yes, Mr Baird the inventor of television. Living in Hastings, 'The Birthplace of Television' I'm a bit of an expert on this (to quote Daddy Pig).
After J.L. Baird nearly bankrupted himself starting a jam making business (I kid you not) it was decided that this rather smart Scot should be moved away from the savage wilderness to be educated. He ended up in Hastings as he didn't have a passport (he couldn't work out how to adjust the stool in the photo booth).
After they persuaded him to stop wearing skirts and throwing pebbles at people a translator was bought in to get some of his ideas down on paper. Fed up with having his pens taken by JLB to stir his porridge, the translator put on his radio. JLB got very excited and started dancing on top of the wireless. As he could be seen from St. Leonards (on account of him setting fire to his 'new fangled' trousers) this counted as the first televised transmission.
We still celebrate Baird Day in Hastings, where we all sit down and watch the television while sipping a 'wee small dram'.
I've never understood why the Scots use the word 'wee' together with the drinks they produce. Not very good marketing.
Who are those other guys you mentioned? Are they Rangers football managers?
myfirstl322
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If you kept it serious it would have more resonance, ye tattie scone
myfirstl322
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All these important inventors could not even have concieved the wonder their combined inventions would mean for the world, least off all for his fellow Scots.
Australia's only claim for invention is the roll-barrow. This we should mock
Australia's only claim for invention is the roll-barrow. This we should mock
StuckAgainSteve
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All these important inventors could not even have concieved the wonder their combined inventions would mean for the world, least off all for his fellow Scots.
Australia's only claim for invention is the roll-barrow. This we should mock
The Aussies found the cause of stomach ulcers a discovery which will save millions of lives. Fair dinkum cobbers.
myfirstl322
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Aussie by proxy surely, was he Irish?
StuckAgainSteve
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Aussie by proxy surely, was he Irish?
Of course - you wouldn't expect a bunch of people whose technical sophistication peaked at making farty noises down a finger-painted tree-trunk to come up with anything useful - at least the hollowing of the trunk is quite clever - until you find out they're hollowed out by termites, not human endeavour...
myfirstl322
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Yes, totally lazy, wait 10'000 years for us to come along with fridges for their beer, and a market for their art... oh, have i taken that too far?:faint2:
