Right, who's got a spare winch ? Any takers for donating there range rover lol
We'll try it out ! Lol
 
Using a hand crank and a home made ground anchor may not be the easiest of things but when your proper stuck in a ditch and your just digging yourself closer yo china with all 4 wheels spinning.

Then trust me i have used this method for years and its hard work but its better than leaving your car stuck whilst you try to find someone that had a proper whinch to drag you out.

Oh and its cheep£ 20 quid well spent.
So if any off you ever do buy one and do need to use it.
Please send cash to ME

Its snow fun in a ditch
Lol
 
Check out this video on YouTube:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-8CI8WBbR0&feature=youtube_gdata_player]Hand winch to save the jeep - YouTube[/ame]


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Now he is using a tree as his anchor but if there aint a tree then that is when the iron bar( ground anchor) comes inn

Enjoy
 
This guy is using a better quality hand whinch but its demonstrating the iron bar as a ground anchourCheck out this video on YouTube:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJdwVSOWtbM&feature=youtube_gdata_player]Using my Hand Winch for 4x4 Off Road Recovery on Ground Anchor - YouTube[/ame]


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Then get to the gym and work on ya arms
Lol

Only kidding.
Its hard work
But it works.
And i think jeeps are about 2 ton in weight too?
 
Only that car is probably half the weight of a range rover !
can you push one on level tarmac ,in neutral, with proper inflated tyres? If you can't then you is a whimp It takes less than 200lbs of force to do that.

So a 2000kg of horizontal is alot of pulling power.

I know trick photography???? a conspericy
 
Four wheel drive helps off road, no car needs it on road, snow or not, a 2WD car on the right tyres will go anywhere a 4x4 can go just as well. In the "old" days standard tyres were all-season tyres - now cars are sold with summer tyres which are useless in the snow - there's where most of the problems lie. Of course in really deep snow ground-clearance becomes an issue - but how often will that be an issue in the UK?

On summer tyres a Rangie will be more of a liability than Mr average's Ford Focus as you've got a lot of weight to stop and steer. ATs or winter tyres are a must in snowy conditions.
 
Four wheel drive helps off road, no car needs it on road, snow or not, a 2WD car on the right tyres will go anywhere a 4x4 can go just as well. In the "old" days standard tyres were all-season tyres - now cars are sold with summer tyres which are useless in the snow - there's where most of the problems lie. Of course in really deep snow ground-clearance becomes an issue - but how often will that be an issue in the UK?

On summer tyres a Rangie will be more of a liability than Mr average's Ford Focus as you've got a lot of weight to stop and steer. ATs or winter tyres are a must in snowy conditions.

Nonsense. Is that when people used to fit town and country tyres to the arse end in winter. And still got stuck. The premis that a two wheel drive car with correct tyres will go where a 4x4 can is ridiculous.
 
Nonsense. Is that when people used to fit town and country tyres to the arse end in winter. And still got stuck. The premis that a two wheel drive car with correct tyres will go where a 4x4 can is ridiculous.

I agree.

My last car was a shogun sport with general grabbers on all round.
In 2 wheel drive the thing was a back end happy piece of ****e .
On road and off.
In 4 wheel drive she would go anywhere.
 
Nonsense. Is that when people used to fit town and country tyres to the arse end in winter. And still got stuck. The premis that a two wheel drive car with correct tyres will go where a 4x4 can is ridiculous.

On road, as I quite clearly pointed out - I drive 20-30K miles per year, have never been stuck in any car (despite my handle!) - I always fit all-season tyres - for example, I towed an AWD Audi on summer tyres out of trouble last year in a front wheel drive saloon fitted with all-seasons. Winter tyres would be even better (and better than a 4x4 on ATs.)
 
On road, as I quite clearly pointed out - I drive 20-30K miles per year, have never been stuck in any car (despite my handle!) - I always fit all-season tyres - for example, I towed an AWD Audi on summer tyres out of trouble last year in a front wheel drive saloon fitted with all-seasons. Winter tyres would be even better (and better than a 4x4 on ATs.)

Ok
So your saying a saloon car with winter tyres on is better than a 4 x 4 with all terrains on? In the bad weather?

I dont want to be rude here, but as my name says.
" Thats Bollocks"

Yes a saloon car with front wheel drive and winters tyres on will get you up a few snowy roads but no way on earth will it go places that a 4 x 4 with all terrains on does!

Sorry mate
Best get yourself to your doctors and get ya head checked out
Lol
No offence meant
Lol
 
On road, as I quite clearly pointed out - I drive 20-30K miles per year, have never been stuck in any car (despite my handle!) - I always fit all-season tyres - for example, I towed an AWD Audi on summer tyres out of trouble last year in a front wheel drive saloon fitted with all-seasons. Winter tyres would be even better (and better than a 4x4 on ATs.)

On road in ice and snow two wheeled drive vehicles cannot hope to compete with 4x4s. Front wheel drive maybe perform slightly better that rear wheel drive. But compete with a 4x4 never. Driving ability does play a part. But get on a snow covered hill in stop start traffic in your two wheel drive saloon and you're knackered. I don't care how many miles a year you do.
 
Ok
So your saying a saloon car with winter tyres on is better than a 4 x 4 with all terrains on? In the bad weather?

I dont want to be rude here, but as my name says.
" Thats Bollocks"

Yes a saloon car with front wheel drive and winters tyres on will get you up a few snowy roads but no way on earth will it go places that a 4 x 4 with all terrains on does!

Sorry mate
Best get yourself to your doctors and get ya head checked out
Lol
No offence meant
Lol


Some ATs are better in the snow than others, and yes a saloon (especially FWD) on proper winter tyres will have more grip in the snow - on ice better still. The example given about about a Shogun fishtailing everywhere in 2WD mode is either being driven too aggressively or the tyres are rubbish in the snow. Tyres are more important that how many wheels are being driven.
 

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